We need more Agi on Ninja Empyrean Gear

So you are still claiming that AGI is the secondary mod of Blade: Hi?

I guess STR is the secondary mod for Y/G/K too then.

You should reread wish12oz' and Greatguardian's posts, they both explain how it works very clearly.

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Originally Posted by Rambus

Sorry I am confused, are you trying to be funny or do not understand how things work?

I was just talking about this with a friend how to gear for ws, I think i understand now why I see remarks like "most blade HI users suck or "wow a blade hi user that does damage"

You do NOT use secondary mod for WS gear, it is mostly str, attack ( if huge amount), and DEX if it is crt.
so blade HI is a combo of STR, attack ( only high amounts but abyssea changes the rules if you can get attacked capped or not) and DEX. I do not know how much dex is needed to cap inside abyssea but that is the general idea.

some WS are more attack heavy then others to get the full potential of said WS.

IF THF it is mostly DEX on SA, IF thf +1 af hands ( not emp) AGI gear may be ok on TA

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What? Please stop posting until you understand what you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

So you are still claiming that AGI is the secondary mod of Blade: Hi?

I guess STR is the secondary mod for Y/G/K too then.

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Sure, why not?

Need more AGI? FFS, your empy gear gives you extra shadows on utsusemi. What more do you want?? Just macro in AGI gear for your WS if you need it. NIN already has one of the coolest empyrean sets.

gear swapping is for elitists, we don't do that crap here!!1!1

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

What more do you want?

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100% triple attack would be a start.

Oh man, Rambus has provided many lulz, thanks.

Str is a secondary modifier for victory smite!

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

How do your posts stay up if all you do is insult people, and behave like you're the best thing to happen to ninjas since RR?

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Since no one has called you out on this, and I assume you're talking about me. Let's look at what you quoted, and try to figure out what you are saying and arguing.

"Inside abyssea, Loki's is better then NIN AF3+2 body."
This is what you originally quoted.

After you quoted this, you quoted some math that does not apply to inside abyssea, to say NIN AF3+2 body is better then Loki's. I assume this is you trying to say I was wrong, and that Loki's is not better inside abyssea.

How do I know it doesn't apply to inside abyssea? Because inside abyssea, any decent ninja with blade hi will be using razed ruins and gnarled horn. These 2 atma's alone increase critical hit rate by 50%, which is more then is even discussed in the math you quoted. Inside abyssea with gnarled horn, razed ruins, cruor buffs, and crit rate merits, you start at 74% crit rate. Redo your math with a 74% crit rate and tell me which is better. Then I want you to include the crit rate bonus gained from the WS at 100% TP and tell me which is better.

The stuff you quoted is obviously referencing outside abyssea, you can tell from the crit rates used to do the math, and everyone agrees, AF3+2 body is better then Loki's for the most part outside abyssea. I already explained that it was anyway, so anyone who can read and comprehend what I said knows it's better.

Anyway, that's what I assume you're trying to argue, you need to learn to use more sentences and make clearly thought out ideas so I know for sure next time Tearanydyvalynndumpster. (Or whatever your current sock puppet account is named)

Also: I can't believe the rest of you didn't catch that! Agreeing with this player who thinks blade jin shouldn't be used on colibri because its wind damage is crazy!

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

Also: I can't believe the rest of you didn't catch that! Shame on you Kuishen, actually agreeing with this player who thinks blade jin shouldn't be used on colibri because its wind damage!

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Late night, skimmed post, etc. Plus I think I read somewhere that af3+2 was better inside abyssea as well. Don't know, don't have Hi yet, will care and get it right when it applies to me.

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