Are they actually remaking this for the mobile? I think that may be an inaccurate rumor based on a misunderstanding that got out and multiplied. I can't for the life of me see how this would possibly work on mobile platform. Cellular reception is spottier than regular wired and wireless Internet, plus you have to account for the limited battery life of mobile devices.
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10-29-2015, 07:31 AMZarchery
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10-29-2015, 07:38 AMAlhanelemThey are making a mobile version of the game.Exactly how it functions is unclear, but we have been told it will initially contain content relating the expansions up to and including Chains of Promathia. This mobile game will supposedly be avialable worldwide, but it is completely seperate from the PC version and you can't use existing characters.Quote:
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10-29-2015, 07:47 AMRusticThat's correct. However, it's not the first so posted or likely the last. It's not like there's a tremendous demand for them two generations of Playstations later, so odds are there's others in private ownership gathering dust. Even half a dozen would likely keep FFXI functional for years given their use more for bugfixing and maint issues vs. new content development. S-E is probably the last developer of official PS2 gaming active in the world, FFXI the last PS2 game still receiving new content- and as they won't rebuild FFXI from scratch due to cost vs reward, the only option is to find cost-effective methods of extending it's service life. That means finding more devkits. S-E is a multibillion dollar company. FFXI has a very small chunk of that pie at this point in terms of development dollars, likewise a small number of people- and a thousand dollars per devkit is chump change.Quote:
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Of course, the Holy Grail would be actually having access in full to PS2's development data to allow non-Linux kits to be remade and reviving the system entirely, much like many older gaming systems have.
That FFXI could outlast FFXIV -again- would be an interesting bonus. S-E was preparing to put down FFXI with Abyssea, and is doing so again with Adoulin - -
10-29-2015, 09:01 AMAlhanelemThat's a possibility, but other than the announcement we've heard basically nothing about what it will be like.Quote:
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This is total hogwash. They were not "preparing to put down FFXI" with Abyssea. They had an expansion in development at the time, they'd have wasted every penny they'd spent on that if that was their goal. It's one thing to argue that Abyssea damaged the game, it's another entirely to argue that it was a deliberate attempt to kill the game- especially considering abyssea itself was never directly the problem in the first place. The problem was that it was essentially impossible to surpass Abyssea with any future content because of the ludicrous amounts of power Abyssea granted (while inside it). I know few people who didn't find abyssea fun. I know lots of people who quit *after* abyssea- but I don't know any that quit *during* it- because Abyssea made other parts of the game less fun because Abyssea was the only place to be.Quote:
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10-29-2015, 01:35 PMRaydeus
Yeah, I have to agree that at this point the Dev kit shortage is very likely just a nice PR friendly excuse to kill XI. But what will really decide the future (or lack of it) of the game will be the number of active subs. People talks a lot about player population in the servers, but in my opinion that doesn't mean anything compared to the number of current active subs.
I say this because in my case I tend to play in bursts. I usually go through periods where I only log in for me points and mog garden stuff (which takes me maybe 15 minutes) and then log out. Followed by periods of time where I play a few weeks non-stop. It all depends on what other games I may be currently playing or how busy I'm with RL stuff, etc. But I still pay my fee without fail regardless. And considering how many players grew up playing XI I'd be surprised if my case wasn't very common simply because lack of time is always a thing in adult life.
So as long as those players who still enjoy XI (even if they can't/wont play as much these days) keep paying their subs, XI will always have a very good chance at staying alive. Even more so when it is operating with a skeleton crew, since costs will go down even further and SE wont be able to justify killing a nice source of revenue like that.
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10-30-2015, 12:37 AMTeraniku
The only way I could see FFXI getting a remake, is as an expansion to FFXIV, either using FFXIV rules, or make it a separate area, that uses it's own game rules. Remove Abyssea and the WotG areas to save development time and add Fort Karugo-Narugo, Grauberg, and Vunkerl inlet to modern Vana'diel. It's the only way it could even have a chance of happening.
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10-30-2015, 01:36 AMAlhanelemNo, because if they wanted to just kill it, they would have done so back when they made the announcements. They don't want to kill it, but they also don't want to spend extra money on it.Quote:
Yeah, I have to agree that at this point the Dev kit shortage is very likely just a nice PR friendly excuse to kill XI.
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10-30-2015, 04:50 AMDaniel_HatcherOf course they don't want to kill it, it makes more money than it costs them, a company would be stupid to kill something while it's making a profit, think how much more money it will make now while they're not actively updating it minus a nerf here, a rehash there.Quote:
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10-30-2015, 04:00 PMTeranikuTell that to NCSoft, but then again, the whole City of Heroes closure was more about NCSoft getting rid of Paragon Studios, then the game itself.Quote:
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10-30-2015, 10:45 PMBillnesRustic, here's a reprint of an old posting that I wrote. My original though here: That SE would buy up all the broken PS2 dev units they could find. They would then cobble together working units from the scraps that they just purchased. Perhaps, they'd also be able to fix a few parts. As you can see below, bungiefanNA shot me down. When I though about it, and had a chance to look at an old off-the-shelf 4X AGP card, I realized he was absolutely justified in that shootdown.Quote:
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I don't think any of the numbers would make sense. Follow along with me on this: SE would purchase ten (10) broken dev kits at $1,000 each. With the ten broken kits now in their stock, SE now has enough working parts (cross your fingers & pray) to cobble together...... Two working dev kits?? That's a four to one (4:1) ratio, folks...... Those two dev kits that they just cobbled together, how long do they last?? Two years, maximum? Is the two years that a cobbled together dev kit might live, enough time to do minor glitch/bug fixes? Without question: yes. Would it be worth it to gamble $10,000 just to have two more machines to do minor bugfixes? No way! Is the two year lifespan (you pray that it's two years) long enough to do another major content addition? Pfft... No way!
Also, let's think about this: SE gambles $10,000 on buying ten broken dev kits. When the tech people at SE examine all the stock, they realize that they can cobble together zero additional working dev kits. That's $10k out the window..... Time to face reality folks: Sad but true, the dev kits are toast.
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