{Reraise} {Do you have it?}

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Originally Posted by Dart

this is why i use atma of the apoc on every job/build lol

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Good 4 u,thats awesome guy,but not every1 has that atma..... I do,but not every1 does.

Really no reason to not have it, unless your brand spanking new with all the brews etc.

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Originally Posted by Siros

Good 4 u,thats awesome guy,but not every1 has that atma..... I do,but not every1 does.

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They should get it then. 9 bosses + 6 caturae + shinryu + cutscenes takes what, 5-6 hours? That's mostly cutscene time too.

At this stage in the game, for an active player, not having a vital atma is just a sign of laziness.

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Originally Posted by Aureus

They should get it then. 9 bosses + 6 caturae + shinryu + cutscenes takes what, 5-6 hours? That's mostly cutscene time too.

At this stage in the game, for an active player, not having a vital atma is just a sign of laziness.

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Yup,these guys are the ones that want SE to just hand them everything. Like abyssea isn't already easy enough. Is it really that hard to to get 9 zone boss clears? Hell no. You don't have it because your lazy. Take some initiative and form your own group to do the zone bosses/cacturae or just shut the hell up.

Too many DDs? Usually you have a bunch of mages with natural RR and raise spells to solve things like this.

No its not laziness,its getting the people together ta get this done.Took me 3 months ta get the people so i could finally have all zones an Shinryu done.Every1 has their own agenda,lol,i luv how u think everything is just so easy ta do all the time.Yes the game has gotten easier,but if u dont have the manpower,u hafta wait.Not every1 has it that easy.....

Every server has roughly 2k+ people on it at any time. It is not hard to shout to get shit done. Hell i duoed 3 of the caturae with a gimp mnk before we even bothered to go duo the rest of our merit abyssites. SE is already spoon feeding you people enough. Go learn your jobs and kill shit already and quit whining

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Originally Posted by Henihhi

Every server has roughly 2k+ people on it at any time. It is not hard to shout to get shit done. Hell i duoed 3 of the caturae with a gimp mnk before we even bothered to go duo the rest of our merit abyssites. SE is already spoon feeding you people enough. Go learn your jobs and kill shit already and quit whining

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i'll start by saying i don't disagree with everything you say.

but 2k people, every server? if that were true, these server merges wouldn't be happening. on ramuh, it was fairly rare for shout groups to happen, and the shout groups that did happen were usually utterly terrible.

an example: a friend went with a pickup group to get razed ruins, with a full alliance or close to it. took like 3 hours or so, because of various reasons: they lost their first pop because the person who was supposed to bring it to camp died near the pop spot, and it depopped; the wrong people claimed abyssic cluster, so they had to wait for another one, etc. and then they killed it when someone else was dead, so that person didn't get atma.

that said, it's not like i haven't seen several people ask to leech clears when killing nms. i find it kind of annoying, but at least they're trying.

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Originally Posted by Aureus

They should get it then. 9 bosses + 6 caturae + shinryu + cutscenes takes what, 5-6 hours? That's mostly cutscene time too.

At this stage in the game, for an active player, not having a vital atma is just a sign of laziness.

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I just can't understand that comment, Rani is one of those caturae you need for access, i could understand if you flamed for another NM, but on Rani is pretty weird.

i wouldn't say it's standard practice to always have reraise. sure, it's nice to have, and easy to get, but in most situations you don't expect to need it. there are other things besides having everyone have rr items that would have saved your pop.