Split Light Armor between Ranged and Melee jobs

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Originally Posted by Kojo

Kinda an odd place to repost, but RUN might have a better chance as a tank if they had access to heavier armor, such as chainmail-grade armors. Not sure if Ogier's is chainmail, but it would be nice for RUN to get as a special case.

RUN is basically RDM with a bigger sword and 1/16th the spells...with Flash.

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this, absolutely this. run's physical def comes from stoneskin/phalanx, not because we want it to, but because that's about all we have. Unless our JSE turns out to be awesome all the way through 99 we are going to keep being not so durable punching bags, not good for a designed tank...

I could understand the lighter armor if we are supposed to EVA tank, but our stats don't really bear that out, parry just procs so little as to be unreliable at best, and with very little enmity generating tools we really need to gear for damage to try to hold hate, thus -pdt or + eva isn't really our best option.

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Originally Posted by Saelae

Flip side being rangers get jack out of all the other pieces. Even with augments most are going to be outclassed or matched by AF3 or Relic+2. Seriously, I haven't really upgraded anything on ranger since I got my AF3+2/Relic +2 because SE keeps shoving them on hybrid gear which end up being side grades at best. Why waste so much time for a piece that is nowhere near optimal for the job and maybe 1% better at best? Every update I check the gear lists and sigh again because there's usually nothing that really jumps out for ranger, while melee gear keeps getting better and better.

At least we have those gloves and the Nahtirah Trousers this update...

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This is a misguided mindset. It's basically "Well, we're screwed before, so you're screwed now, it works out." It doesn't. Multiple pieces of manibozho and tharaundaut are worthless for many classes due to being VERY range heavy. Which is fine, there need to be piece of gear with those stats, but there also needs to be stuff out there for each slot for the light armored melees as well, cause they don't have any other choices. Still rockin' Brego just because none of the Adoulin junk is worth a darn due to all the shooty bits randomly thrown in.

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Originally Posted by Losie

This is a misguided mindset. It's basically "Well, we're screwed before, so you're screwed now, it works out."

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That absolutely was not the point of my post. I have a 99 DNC as well and I agree with the OP that they need to make separate sets for light melee/ranged. However, I disagree with the Manibozho and Tharaundaut being ranged heavy outside of the M. gloves and the T. legs (although there are the odd mage stats tossed on a couple pieces for BLU)

The point, again, is not melee should get screwed, but SE should be making gear that is useful for the jobs that can equip it, and not take the lazy route by shoving as many jobs onto one set as possible. Particularly when the gear can be purchased with points (since you can't use loot table clutter as an argument against it), there is no reason why pieces should have useless stats for the jobs that can equip them.

They don't necessarily have to be 100% optimal, they just have to be usable. (i.e. no R.Att/R.Acc/Snapshot on melee gear or Haste/DA/Att/Acc on ranged gear)

They could make the ranged attacks not suck so much for the jobs on the equipment. If you don't have /RNG or /COR. I suppose that's beyond a dream at this point though. <sarcasm> I mean, they have to know that THF's aren't equipping Aliyat Chakrams because of it's damage stat and our crazy over-powered throwing skill. </sarcasm>