Page parties levels

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Yeah, you would, if you had cruor to be the key bitch. New players don't.

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You don't have to be. Not everyone is such minded.
And no, I'm not talking about RMT leeching either.

Isn't Crawler's Nest certain death at 35 unless you have 6+ people? The monsters at the entrance are incredibly tough to 35 if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, for 30~34 solo, I do page 1 in Korroloka Tunnel (very easy solo). For 34~40 solo, I do Gigas and bats in Lower Delkfutt's Tower (need my adventuring fellow with most jobs until near the end). Then for 40~44 I do Hecteyes and Stirges in Ranguemont Pass (once again need fellow until near the end).

Once you're 44, you may be semi-decent for the entrance of Crawler's Nest. If not, Sea Serpent Grotto page 1 works for that level solo.

Grounds of Valor is 99% dead on Quetzalcoatl. The 3 areas that are sometimes occupied are Zeruhn Mines, Gusgen Mines, and Bostonieux Oubliette. Nowhere else ever has GoV groups when I check.

Crawlers nest was once and so far as I know still is popular on Phoenix, could be wrong however. In either case I assumed it would be much the same. Here 35 is starting level of entry for people in Crawlers nest. :x

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

You don't have to be. Not everyone is such minded.
And no, I'm not talking about RMT leeching either.

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I know it sounds strange, but some players actually like to be at least slightly useful while they exp too.

I could have leeched/keyed up all my jobs, I easily have the cruor/gil for it, but I think it's boring to key, and I don't like that afk leveling is even possible.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji

After 30 you abyssea to 99.

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I never understand this mentality, as you then have to spend days skilling up your main skills to even be anywhere useful, and also have to learn your class. At least in page parties you are hitting things and using your spells, as a keyer, you are just increasing the gimped gap immensely. Even with food, it took 3 days (around 3-4 hours at a time) to go from dagger skill 50 to close to cap, and that was with food) while farming scrolls and my THF knife pop. Thats the same amount of time I could take 2 jobs to 99 in page parties, so it's functionally null if you don't already have your skills waaaaaay up there.

Skilling in GoV is slow & nearly impossible seeing as everything dies so fast & you only hit each mob 1~3 times, or at least thats my experience.

That's still infinitely more times than you hit a mob while on key duty

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Originally Posted by 0nionKn1ght

I never understand this mentality, as you then have to spend days skilling up your main skills to even be anywhere useful, and also have to learn your class. At least in page parties you are hitting things and using your spells, as a keyer, you are just increasing the gimped gap immensely. Even with food, it took 3 days (around 3-4 hours at a time) to go from dagger skill 50 to close to cap, and that was with food) while farming scrolls and my THF knife pop. Thats the same amount of time I could take 2 jobs to 99 in page parties, so it's functionally null if you don't already have your skills waaaaaay up there.

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1.) I paid my dues already and thus have earned teh right to burn. 2.) Skilling up is infinately easier after the fact. 3.) Burning a job has nothign to do what-so-ever with your ability to learn it or not.

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Originally Posted by 0nionKn1ght

I never understand this mentality, as you then have to spend days skilling up your main skills to even be anywhere useful, and also have to learn your class. At least in page parties you are hitting things and using your spells, as a keyer, you are just increasing the gimped gap immensely. Even with food, it took 3 days (around 3-4 hours at a time) to go from dagger skill 50 to close to cap, and that was with food) while farming scrolls and my THF knife pop. Thats the same amount of time I could take 2 jobs to 99 in page parties, so it's functionally null if you don't already have your skills waaaaaay up there.

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Please not this discussion again. Just ignore him like everyone else does. Just don't start with this again. Let at least one thread go unpoisoned. (Or at least don't lie about it.)

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Originally Posted by Mirage

That's still infinitely more times than you hit a mob while on key duty

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While you are correct you can not say skilling up is really done much if at all. If you went 1~60 with GM & CN as your only 2 leveling areas, using GoV alone. Then you would probably hit a skill level of maybe half your cap at best in the end I think. Which is not all to great, it is better, but not good either.