Casting Sneak / Invisible Outside of Party?

Blockaid...

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Currently, the way that spells/abilities are set up fall into one of three categories: Self/Party Members/Anyone. Therefore, we can’t just make an adjustment to allow something to reach alliances only. If we were to do this, it would have to be done so that the spell applies to "Anyone."

In that case, we have to worry quite a bit about harassment and griefing that could result from that change. For example, when players have to be visible to interact with something (like a door), someone can cast invisible on them to grief them repeatedly. Secondly, players would be able to disrupt someone who is trying "pull with sound aggro" by casting sneak on them before hand. Furthermore, casting invisible on someone else and making them disappear without their consent is a major point of harassment.

These reasons are why we haven't moved to change the properties of Sneak/Invisible beyond their current party member limitation.

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This doesn't make any actual, logical sense, as you can cast, oh I don't know, like 20 other spells on non-party/alliance members...

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Currently, the way that spells/abilities are set up fall into one of three categories: Self/Party Members/Anyone. Therefore, we can’t just make an adjustment to allow something to reach alliances only. If we were to do this, it would have to be done so that the spell applies to "Anyone."

In that case, we have to worry quite a bit about harassment and griefing that could result from that change. For example, when players have to be visible to interact with something (like a door), someone can cast invisible on them to grief them repeatedly. Secondly, players would be able to disrupt someone who is trying "pull with sound aggro" by casting sneak on them before hand. Furthermore, casting invisible on someone else and making them disappear without their consent is a major point of harassment.

These reasons are why we haven't moved to change the properties of Sneak/Invisible beyond their current party member limitation.

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people could just spam protect,cure and may other way to harassment people, but that why /blockaid exists.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

In that case, we have to worry quite a bit about harassment and griefing that could result from that change. For example, when players have to be visible to interact with something (like a door), someone can cast invisible on them to grief them repeatedly. Secondly, players would be able to disrupt someone who is trying "pull with sound aggro" by casting sneak on them before hand. Furthermore, casting invisible on someone else and making them disappear without their consent is a major point of harassment.

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Solution:
Allow people to operate doors and interact with objects while invisible. It's stupid that I can't open a door that can't see me. The door doesn't need to see me. I feel I do a pretty good job hiding from doors irl (I may never have been seen by one), and I still manage to open and close them.

Wut?:
Spamming sneak on someone that is trying to pull with sound aggro? You realize that sneak falls whenever a monster swings at you, right? This is the biggest non-issue that ever wasn't an issue. As long as you aggro one monster (by canceling sneak while standing near it) then pulling the rest wouldn't be a problem at all. This is apart from the fact that no one would ever bother to do that.

/blockaid.


I'm using the word stupid in regards to the dev team, because it was just proven.

I don't even know how to respond to that reasoning. I can feel bits of my brain wrestling with each other because no particular region wants to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Furthermore, casting invisible on someone else and making them disappear without their consent is a major point of harassment.

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Oh, a MAJOR point?! Yes, I'm sure having a status applied that can be easily removed is a grievous offense. Far worse than not being cured by someone incompetent or needing to waiting 20 minutes while someone microwaves his or her cat or about a billion other things that are fairly commonplace in Final Fantasy XI that I do not want to experience.

I very seriously doubt anyone would mind being forcibly made invisible, which can be easily prevented by blockage, compared to all the truly annoying things that strangers can inflict on people over Final Fantasy XI already.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

I feel I do a pretty good job hiding from doors irl (I may never have been seen by one), and I still manage to open and close them.

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Automatic doors may be more vigilant than you're giving them credit for. Sometimes, I can feel the entryway to Wal-Mart looking deep into my soul and asking "Did the depressing atmosphere of Wal-Mart finally give you the final push and inspire you to drive off a bridge on your way home? No? Always next time..."

Yeah. Like I wanna be able to sneak/invis all the alliance cause they're too cheap to buy oils/prism, No thanks ;D

Blockaid pretty much negates these reasons not to do it.

Would'a been better to say:

"We're not doing it because we don't want to."

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

Would'a been better to say:

"We're not doing it because we don't want to."

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Maybe they consider it better to be thought of as idiots rather than dicks?