Improvements to Mythic Acquisition

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

Thanks for the correction, which does nothing to invalidate my point.

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After 300 million gil worth of Alexandrite, are you really going to complain about 3 million gil worth of lamps? It's insignificant.

Heck, I got two Scintillian Ingots the other night (120k each) and made back an Odin worth of glasses. I sold 24 P.Tatters at 100k each that I made from abjurations that I got free lot when no one wanted them for real and made back 40 glasses worth of gil. 10 Neptunal Tatters sold for 100k each for another 16 glasses worth of gil. I'm only at ~45k Ampuoles and I've already almost made enough gil from DOING Einherjar to cover the whole thing.

The problem is the freaking delay timer, not the nominal amount of gil they charge you to enter. If 120k per week is too rich for your blood, then mythics really aren't for you.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

Heck, I got two Scintillian Ingots the other night (120k each) and made back an Odin worth of glasses. I sold 24 P.Tatters at 100k each that I made from abjurations that I got free lot when no one wanted them for real and made back 40 glasses worth of gil. 10 Neptunal Tatters sold for 100k each for another 16 glasses worth of gil. I'm only at ~45k Ampuoles and I've already almost made enough gil from DOING Einherjar to cover the whole thing.

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Okay... I need a better way to make money.

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The problem is the freaking delay timer, not the nominal amount of gil they charge you to enter. If 120k per week is too rich for your blood, then mythics really aren't for you.

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No, compared to the 500k entrance fee I thought it was, 120k per week is reasonable. Seriously, thanks for the earlier correction.

No problem, lol. I'm just bitter that I've had all the Alexandrite done since the beginning of October and still don't have a mythic.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

No problem, lol. I'm just bitter that I've had all the Alexandrite done since the beginning of October and still don't have a mythic.

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I can understand the frustration and even share it. I'm still stuck on working (translation: struggling) my way through the ranks and getting the kills I need. I am not going to get mad if they make Mythics more accessible.

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

You also forgotten the NMs you have to eliminate as well. T3 ZNM, the Salvage bosses, and the three kings. Who does all this anymore? Unless you have some good friends are an active LS that still does old school stuff you are SoL if you want to make a Mythic.

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Yes, you're SoL if you're trying to solo a mythic weapon from start to finish. On some jobs. Others could probably take down the NMs. Worst case, you'll have to trio them. If you can find people to do Einherjar with (for months on end no less) I'm pretty sure you can find people to help you with those NMs.

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

And then there's the assaults. I know you mentioned them before, but take a closer look at them for a moment. Assaults from the depressingly easy to the annoyingly hard ones all require three people to tackle. That's fifty missions you'll have to clear over the course of an annoyingly long amount of time with at least two other people who hopefully won't get bored a ditch you. And then there's the missions themselves, half which are the type of missions you don't want to do for yourself, much less for someone else.

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Most are actually soloable. Some aren't, I admit that, but you shouldn't have any trouble finding help for it. And I know for a fact that several people even on our server are still interested in doing them (both mythic builders and just completionists going for the Captain rank). My LS has more than 6 people who all want Captain rank and we're gonna start two parallel static parties soon (including me, doing it for the mythic requirement as well).

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

Square has a lot of issues to address here before Mythics become relevant to the players.

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I honestly think the Alexandrite requirement is the only unreasonable thing. Einherjar may take longer to get if you're rich enough to buy all the alex, but honestly, if you consider you can finish it in almost half a year (at no penalty of teaming up with other mythic pursuers or a few of the plenty people who want either Einherjar items or just enjoy doing the event), that doesn't sound too bad to me, especially if you consider that most people probably still have ampoules left over from when they were actually doing Einherjar for Odin items or abjurations (most people I know capped on ampoules for Kilusha items pretty quickly). Only sucks if you could afford to buy enough Alexandrite at once and are now sitting there and waiting for the remaining Einherjar time to pass by, but I believe that very few people are in this position (considering buying all alex will cost anywhere between 450M and 600M on Leviathan at current rates).

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Originally Posted by Trisscar

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Originally Posted by Byrth

Einherjar costs 60k every time you enter. I am paying 240k every ~7500 Ampuoles and expect to pay 3.4mil total for 100k Amps.

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Thanks for the correction, which does nothing to invalidate my point.

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They already lowered the entry cost for Einherjar (was 180k, I believe). If it was 500k per entry, you'd be looking at another 28M, in addition to the Alexandrite. However, with 60k per entry, you're looking at 3.36M, which is laughable compared to that. As it is now, it really does not need to be lowered, especially if you could find some arrangements with other mythic holders, or find a shell that does Einherjar regularly anyway.

I actually have a different question: is it possible to do two mythic quests at once? The quest, as it reads on wiki, requires you to trade a weapon to Abquhbah, which I assume will be your final weapon. However, I'd like to get the assaults done right away, although I'm not sure which weapon I should take yet. Is there a way to start two weapon quests, then finish the assault requirement and then choose which weapon to upgrade further?

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I completely missed this second page. Some of what I said was already covered here, just disregard it in that case.

It is not possible to do two mythic quests at once.

Also, for such a difficult requirement Alexandrite really went down easily. You can get ~100 per day duo (with a third person to enter you) including linen drops, which makes it 300 days to farm 30,000 Alexandrite. That's not super far off the time Einherjar requires and takes about the same number of man-hours at 99.