Apples to Oranges

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

You're right in thinking the gap shouldn't be that wide when both Blue Mage and Paladin have the same sub-job and similar equipment. There's a gap if the Blue Mage is subbing Warrior and doing other things to achieve the highest sword damage possible, but that's not the case in your examples.

This is the biggest part of it, unless I'm reading this sentence way too literally. I'm not too familiar with Paladin's equipment, but I know it shares very little visible equipment with Blue Mage. A quick glance tells me Paladin will probably come out with lower DEX and no Loki's Kaftan/Toci's Harness/Atho's not-as-good-as-hoped Set Bonus but much higher Attack from Twilight Helm and other heavy melee pieces.

Still, that's a pretty wide gap considering both jobs are wearing similar stuff. Do you use different food on each job or something?

Edit: I remembered that Voidwatch equipment exists, even if it doesn't drop.

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I apologize, I didn't mean to skip over your post.

My CDC gear is very minimal at the moment. I've only just begun building a WS set for it. Right now, it consists of Lethe Boots, Tumbler Trunks, Cuchulain's Belt, Atheling Mantle, Airy Ring, Rajas Ring and Rancor Collar, all of which can be equipped mutually by PLD and BLU.

My BLU was actually merely a proc job on until recently, and in this case, as they can both equip Almace, I just transferred my PLD WS set over.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

So really, dual wielding and double attack account for that much of my damage?

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It didn't occur to me either, since I just assume every one-handed job dual wields unless I actually think about it, but yeah. Dual Wield can basically be considered +1.0 fTP for a weaponskill unless you're including an ability that only affects the first hit in a calculation.

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Originally Posted by Dragonlord

Yeah looks like it lol. I guess i underestimated the added dmg from the DW hit before i actually mathed it out. Makes sence now though why blu is crushing pld's dmg, even though pld/war gets the use of fencer (tp bonus and crit hit rate bonus)

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And Berserk. Speaking of which, if you used PLD/WAR (almost any non-solo situation would welcome that), you may notice quite a large increase in damage, depending on the mob you fight.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

And Berserk. Speaking of which, if you used PLD/WAR (almost any non-solo situation would welcome that), you may notice quite a large increase in damage, depending on the mob you fight.

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Very true. Sorry i wasn't clear, but i was speculating blu/war vs. pld/war in that case. Which everything would be equal except that blu gets DW/TA(from spell set trait), and pld gets fencer, which blu doesn't due to DWing.

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Originally Posted by Dragonlord

Very true. Sorry i wasn't clear, but i was speculating blu/war vs. pld/war in that case. Which everything would be equal except that blu gets DW/TA(from spell set trait), and pld gets fencer, which blu doesn't due to DWing.

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Ah, I misunderstood then. I'm not a BLU and won't pretend to know a thing about it, but is /WAR a viable option for BLU?

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Originally Posted by Arcon

is /WAR a viable option for BLU?

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It currently the best damage output sub for blu, especially in VW. You get berserk/warcry/aggressor, attack bonus and 10% DA from traits. This allows you to set DW3 (25% delay reduction), TA (5%), and STP.

This is obviously not meant to be something to solo with as you lose a bit of utility, but instead sacrifice that utility to act as a DD. And as prothscar and others have shown, almace Blu is about the 5th strongest DD in VW, after some powerhouse DDs like ukko war and VS mnks. Blu's power really comes from the high rate of crits, rate of attack, and extra hits.

And now Loki's can be added to my list. Got it just a little bit ago. xD