Dynamis: way too much junk.

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Originally Posted by Nynja

You've been doing dynamis as a full scale LS event this entire time? Maybe you're the one doing it wrong

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Sadly, I have been doing it wrong. Dynamis is a lowman event now. You can solo a freaking relic weapon and full AF2+2, and the drops off neobosses are sadly lack-luster. I've made several posts on that topic before, pleading for them to make reasons to bring groups to do it again. Sadly, Arch Dynamis Lord is the only reasonable thing to bring a group for. Well, maybe the neo Diabolos' too. Some of their drops are kinda neat.

But that's beside the point. I tried asking for more reason to target the neo NMs and it fell on deaf ears, so now I'm trying another one of the things about recent Dynamis that really irks me. Did you know that BEFORE the entry changes to Dynamis, my LS was getting over 80 pieces of AF2 per run? That's a lot of lotting/passing to do in the 90 minutes we took to full-clear Bastok. Would you like to know how much we get now?

I'm curious though... how strongly opposed would you be to the idea of neo NMs and higher tier enemies being removed from Dynamis? Instead, put all the drops on the zone boss and fill the high-tier areas with low-tier enemies and low-tier NMs to drop bijous and hundos. If that had been my suggestion, would you be this irrate as well?

While we are at it, can we also take Currency out of Dynamis. That junk allways seems to drop in such large quantitys and autosorts to me for no reason ._., lets just move it all over to campaign, where it can massdrop in Union groups!

And after that you can remove the NMs pls and place them into the real Areas?

And after that pls delete the zones.

umad...thats all

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Originally Posted by Damane

While we are at it, can we also take Currency out of Dynamis. That junk allways seems to drop in such large quantitys and autosorts to me for no reason ._., lets just move it all over to campaign, where it can massdrop in Union groups!

And after that you can remove the NMs pls and place them into the real Areas?

And after that pls delete the zones.

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Currency is why people do Dynamis though. Do you do it for exp scrolls? Do you do it for beastcoins? Do you do it for hydra corps fellow gear? No? Then why does the suggestion of removing those things from Dynamis offend you?

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Originally Posted by Nynja

umad...thats all

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Mad people allow emotion to cloud their judgement instead of relying on logic to dictate their actions and beliefs. A mad person might say something like "OH NOZZZZ" and blow everything out of proportion with hyperbole instead of presenting valid points.

Since no one else seems capable of saying it, I'll raise the biggest reason against the changes I've suggested:

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The return on investment for devs spending time making these changes is miniscule at best since your linkshell appears to be the only one having these difficulties. I would much rather see the devs work on something more current like VW than to make Dynamis less painful for one linkshell.

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Now THAT would be a valid argument which highlights an actual downside to the request I have made instead of simply saying 'lol, lern2pass' or 'hah u dum' or 'yeah, then we could delete dynamis after that'.

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3. Ok we'll just... hey, wait. Taurii are those true-sight things which are all over the narrow hallways leading to that time extension in Tavnazia. I'm sorry, are you seriously against fellow hydra gear being removed from the game?

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Yes, I'd be against any gear being removed from the game, especially when people already posess it. Once something is in, you can't just take it out. Sorry you don't like the gear. Just throw it away if you don't want it.

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Currency is why people do Dynamis though. Do you do it for exp scrolls? Do you do it for beastcoins? Do you do it for hydra corps fellow gear? No? Then why does the suggestion of removing those things from Dynamis offend you?

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Because they don't need to be removed. If you don't want stuff, pass it or throw it away. It's not that hard.

Were back to an era of garbage drop rates, and you're complaining about having too much loot...

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Yes, I'd be against any gear being removed from the game, especially when people already posess it. Once something is in, you can't just take it out. Sorry you don't like the gear. Just throw it away if you don't want it.

Because they don't need to be removed. If you don't want stuff, pass it or throw it away. It's not that hard.

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Your first point is respectable, and for the most part, I agree. Once something is ingame, it should stay ingame. There are, however, many items ingame which were only obtainable for a limited time, such as the tidal talisman and various moogle caps. No longer any way to obtain those, but most people don't care about that too much. And that is how people would come to feel about the hydra jupon set as well. Haubert and doublet set are still useful, I'm not asking for them to be removed. But I hold a special place in my hate for the hydra jupon set, and would like to see it removed.

As for your second point, I get the feeling I'm not explaining this too well. I want to see a decrease in the sheer volume of drops in Dynamis, or a way to better control that volume so we can still lot and pass on currency and forgs. When there's 9 pieces of AF2 in the loot pool and 2 forgs drop, 1 goes into the last loot pool spot, the other is sorted before anyone can lot or pass it.

Allow me to get more specific: my friend and I dualbox in Dynamis during the LS runs. We allow currency to autosort, but forgs get collected by the bank to be sold to members (for DKP, not gil, of course). Since our mules are dualboxed, people in LS think it unfair that currency has twice the chance to sort to me (because I have 2 chars) as it has to sort to them. As such, I use a LL profile on the mule to auto-pass currency (as well as all the other crap I don't want). However, since the currency sorts without ever going into the loot pool to be passed, my mule winds up with currency at the end of the run. Furthermore, half the forgs get auto-sorted to random members because the bank can't lot forgs that are never in the loot pool. I don't fully trust our members with... less impressive attendence... to be honest about returning all the forgs that autosort to them.

So it's not a matter of passing the stuff you don't want. It's a matter of there being so much junk flying through the loot pool that even lightluggage can't keep up with it.

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Originally Posted by Nynja

Were back to an era of garbage drop rates, and you're complaining about having too much loot...

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Do you not already have every piece of AF2, hydra gear, exp scroll, beastcoin, fresh orc liver you want? Come to fenrir and join my LS, we get plenty of that crap.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see drop rates increase on currency and forgs. That stuff is really quite useful. I wish high tier mobs dropped more currency and forgs, but as an exchange, they couldn't drop anything else. More of what I want and less of what I don't? Where do I sign?