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Originally Posted by Tamoa

To the best of my knowledge, Shoha is on par with or slightly better than Fudo. So I guess Fudo should be nerfed too then? Or are people screaming that Shoha needs to be nerfed because sam finally got a ws that isn't complete shit when in Abyssea?

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Atoris (I think it was) said he did some testing and said Shona is 30% stronger then Ukkos (after the nerf) on the new hard VW mobs and that SAM has a 30% higher WS frequency then WAR. That switches the game to SAM or GTFO, moreso then it was at 75.

I really wouldnt listen to Atoreis.

It took SE over a year to nerf Ukko's. Shoha has only been out for a week. They won't nerf it until people all get it and level their SAM just for it and get relics just for it and get used to doing all the endgame events with SAMx15. Then they'll change the WSC to 5% CHR and in the same update they'll allow Desperate Blows to go over the Delay cap. They'll rotate this through every job, so that every job gets hated as the one overpowered job at one point in time.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

[Signature removed by Moderator for being way too awesome and full of truth.]

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Just curious, what was in your sig?

FFXI Official forum procedure at work!

1) Make a rude, sarcastic, post that insults the development team.
2) Complain that the development team doesn't listen to you.
3) Goto step 1.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

FFXI Official forum procedure at work!

1) Make a rude, sarcastic, post that insults the development team.
2) Complain that the development team doesn't listen to you.
3) Goto step 1.

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you sir, have won

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Just curious, what was in your sig?

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Pchan quoted me in his sig and changed it a bit, so I quoted him also. But mine was better. To bad it only survived for like 3 or 4 months in my sig. =3

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Originally Posted by Kimble

I really wouldnt listen to Atoreis.

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He's not always right, but if he was wrong I think someone would of pointed it out.

EDIT::: Here's the post:

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Originally Posted by Atoreis

Nice trolling but I will answer anyway.

MNK has Impetus for 3min which boost crit rate by at least 10% and has some defensive capabilities.
NIN is not a pure DD and can take a big advantage from Innin on VW fights (85 Kannagi NIN I was parsing on last Kaggens had 1600 and 2000 avg :Hi)
CDC has DEX mod which let it cap dDEX by stacking DEX for WSC.

I parsed last Kaggens and wit 95 Ukonvasara I had avg 2250 and 2580 Ukko's.
SAM had 1980 and 2053 Shoha using Masamune.
I parsed Kaggen on test server today and avg Ukko was 1600.
SAM has now 30% stronger WS with 30% higher WS frequency.

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Atoreis also apologized for overreacting, and restating that WAR is still the top DD over at the BG forums. And Shoha is only slightly stronger than Fudo on most content, and is consistently decent on Voidwatch Tier 3+. While I'm slightly sad that it's stronger than Fudo, I'm happy that they gave SAM a good WS that works consistently decent-good in Voidwatch.

Also, the only reason I'm still using my 90 Masamune instead of Magian TP bonus GK that I already have is for pride's sake =D

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Originally Posted by Alderin

Nerfing jobs because their too lazy to fix the weaker ones.

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It's about time WAR and MNK got some comeuppance.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

It's about time WAR and MNK got some comeuppance.

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You've met some really unpleasant people then o.o All the MNKs and WARs I've met have been nice, fun people.

Edit: Got Ninja Edited XD

Shoha honestly works better then Fudo on high defense mobs. Otherwise Fudo is better.