[dev1064] Job Adjustments: Weapon Skills

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Originally Posted by Theytak

wut? I'm trying to make sense of that, but your lack of punctuation and your bizarre, baseless accusation are kind of preventing it from making much sense.

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Typical come back from your kind, you know what im saying is true but you would rather take a dig at my grammer.

Well sucks for you ukon is getting nerfed and it's 12 months to late but least it is better than never.

I support the nerf as well, they were too overpowered. Now nerf Tasha: Shoha and maybe balance really will be better.

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Originally Posted by newmonkey

Typical come back from your kind, you know what im saying is true but you would rather take a dig at my grammer.

Well sucks for you ukon is getting nerfed and it's 12 months to late but least it is better than never.

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my kind? I've always been fairly vocal about not liking empyrean weapons, and how they shouldn't overtake relics... haven't I? Do I sound like an ukkowar to you? What are you smoking? Will you share?

Well you seem to be in denial of the fact that most of the community on here bascially laughed at relic holders complaints when 85 empyreans were released, i assure you it did happen.

So all i am doing is laughing back at those people now.

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Originally Posted by newmonkey

Well you seem to be in denial of the fact that most of the community on here bascially laughed at relic holders complaints when 85 empyreans were released, i assure you it did happen.

So all i am doing is laughing back at those people now.

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How do I seem that way at all? I was one of the people who sided with the relic holders... God you're needy for attention. Ah well, I enjoy feeding the internet's needy. If someone doesn't, how can the little trollies grow up and earn their bridge?

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

I wholeheartedly support the upcoming balancing of Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite and applaud the developers for finally giving attention to this issue. These two WS are ridiculously overpowered and need to be brought into line with other WS in order to keep the game from becoming "Warrior and Monk Fantasy XI"

Also, this.

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1...tzoriginal.jpg

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They don't need to nerf WAR and MNK (and even PUP) to achieve balance. They need to bring the other jobs up to the same level. This is level 99! WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL MORE POWERFUL NOW! But we don't really. They're basically making level 99 power feel exactly the same as level 75 power. Hell, in a relative sense, I think I feel weaker now than I did then!

The devs talked about damage inflation. Damage is SUPPOSED to inflate when you get to higher levels! But the monsters gain more HP too, so it's balanced... Nerfing new weapon skills such that the old ones are still the best is stupid. Nerfing new job abilities makes giving them in the first place pointless.

It's a real simple situation. Nerfing is a negative approach and makes players affected by the nerf unhappy. By comparison, buffs to other jobs make lots of players happy, doesn't really make many people unhappy, and th e whole general vibe from the players in the game is more positive. why not do the thing that makes everyone happy instead of the thing that pisses some people off?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

They don't need to nerf WAR and MNK (and even PUP) to achieve balance. They need to bring the other jobs up to the same level. This is level 99! WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL MORE POWERFUL NOW! But we don't really. They're basically making level 99 power feel exactly the same as level 75 power. Hell, in a relative sense, I think I feel weaker now than I did then!

The devs talked about damage inflation. Damage is SUPPOSED to inflate when you get to higher levels! But the monsters gain more HP too, so it's balanced... Nerfing new weapon skills such that the old ones are still the best is stupid. Nerfing new job abilities makes giving them in the first place pointless.

It's a real simple situation. Nerfing is a negative approach and makes players affected by the nerf unhappy. By comparison, buffs to other jobs make lots of players happy, doesn't really make many people unhappy, and th e whole general vibe from the players in the game is more positive. why not do the thing that makes everyone happy instead of the thing that pisses some people off?

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stop including pup. It's not a pup nerf. The only reason pups with verethragna use VS is because of aftermath. Stringing Pummel is just as strong as VS is now, so even if they nerf VS to kingdom come, pup won't really feel it.

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Originally Posted by Theytak

stop including pup. It's not a pup nerf. The only reason pups with verethragna use VS is because of aftermath. Stringing Pummel is just as strong as VS is now, so even if they nerf VS to kingdom come, pup won't really feel it.

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Actually, you dont even need the aftermath for it to be worth it. You can solo light easily with two smites using the automaton's TP or follow the automaton to do it. If two smites don't kill it, light will.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Actually, you dont even need the aftermath for it to be worth it. You can solo light easily with two smites using the automaton's TP or follow the automaton to do it. If two smites don't kill it, light will.

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I'm trying to wrap my head around what you're describing, but I'm just getting static. I think I've probably reached a stopping point for today's forum shenanigans....

I don't understand why relic holders are happy over this....uh, this doesn't make you any stronger, and the nerf would have to be pretty monumental for it to put you anywhere near the top again.

Basically it seems like you're happy others got shafted like you did, which makes no sense. Be happy if you get a buff, or catch a break with the 99 trials. This crabs-in-a-barrel mentality makes you seem immature and petty as hell.