Mundane

I will give them benefit of the doubt, I feel if I make my objections known now, that it can be passed along to the DEV before they release their next new content, and therefore avert what I feel is a bad idea. To me, it's easier to sway their minds now, while whatever they are cooking is in developement, then have them release the next content at an easier level because once it's released it's harder to go back and say this events too easy we need to make it harder than it would be to say, this events to hard lets make it easier.

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Originally Posted by Brolic

content 7 years old should be easy, take that same setup to Aello or Qilin and come back.

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All these mobs are a joke, and nobody is going to low man these nm because of the proc system. What you said is just not feasible because you wouldn't be able to get any decent light builds, and since there's a 30 minute time limit I'm not sure killing it in that amount of time is feasible. To me, there is no challenge if the tank can sit there all day and tank said nm, you can't kill me and I can't finish you off in 30 minutes doesnt equate as a challenge.

I tried to low man the wamoura in cn(S) but we ran out of time, the tank did just fine. Agian, not challenging, just not enough firepower to low man kill under 30 minutes.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

To be honest, I thought that the whole raise / home point thing was the most annoying part of the game when I first started. Having your tank die in valkurm, and having to wait 45 minutes for him to Home Point to windhurst and walk back was super lame. 5 people standing around with their thumbs where the sun don't shine is not fun or challenging imo

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LOL, so true. As i said, I approve of the auto-rr head gear for jobs under 30.

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Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi

All these mobs are a joke, and nobody is going to low man these nm because of the proc system. What you said is just not feasible because you wouldn't be able to get any decent light builds, and since there's a 30 minute time limit I'm not sure killing it in that amount of time is feasible. To me, there is no challenge if the tank can sit there all day and tank said nm, you can't kill me and I can't finish you off in 30 minutes doesnt equate as a challenge.

I tried to low man the wamoura in cn(S) but we ran out of time, the tank did just fine. Agian, not challenging, just not enough firepower to low man kill under 30 minutes.

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what i'm hearing is you tried to lowman new content and you lost?

If you're going to reference old content dl is a terrible one, because sitting behind an ochain for new and sitting behind some rdm\drks for old ain't that different.

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Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi

I tried to low man the wamoura in cn(S) but we ran out of time, the tank did just fine. Agian, not challenging, just not enough firepower to low man kill under 30 minutes.

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So tell me what your definition of challenge is. Because trying to low man an NM and failing to do so sounds like a challenge to me. Without adding any players, try to find out how you can better approach that NM, and you'll have the right attitude.

Here's a better example of what I should have said, but the example wasn't available at the time.

The 99 cap. It's been nerfed because it was too much for some people, who never even tried it and just saw the video of the trio ochain pld rdm bst wipe.

That' what i'm asking for, the maat fight, the fellow cap fight at 70, they weren't game breakers, but they offered a challenge and were fun. I beat Maat third time around, and adventuring fellow second time around, but I still lost, had to rethink some things and try again and I enjoyed it. I'm not asking to wipe ten-twenty times, but I would still go back even if I did, I just want a decent challenge (pun intented ^.-)

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Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi

Here's a better example of what I should have said, but the example wasn't available at the time.

The 99 cap. It's been nerfed because it was too much for some people, who never even tried it and just saw the video of the trio ochain pld rdm bst wipe.

That' what i'm asking for, the maat fight, the fellow cap fight at 70, they weren't game breakers, but they offered a challenge and were fun. I beat Maat third time around, and adventuring fellow second time around, but I still lost, had to rethink some things and try again and I enjoyed it. I'm not asking to wipe ten-twenty times, but I would still go back even if I did, I just want a decent challenge (pun intented ^.-)

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The 99 cap shouldn't be nearly as hard as other content. There is a big difference between an event that drops shiny gear being hard, and a level cap quest. And Maat was never really hard. Even on red mage at level 66, it only took me 2 tries. Mainly because I had no idea how the game worked at the time. I hadn't set up proper macros yet, had no gear swaps, and was even casting a lot of stuff from the spell menu lol. The people in the video getting owned are experienced and very well geared, and they lost. Big difference.

It's fine if Void Watch, New Nyzul, New Salvage, New Einherjar, New WOE, New Limbus, and W/E else they add is hard. Just getting 99 shouldn't be very hard though.

You should really try low manning some stuff. The Dev staff has to cater to the community (at least a little) or people will quit playing. Most of the community is nowhere near finished with all the content that they want to do, or feeling a lack of challenge. I wouldn't worry though, SE already said that they think abbysea was a mistake, so expect more shitty NMs and horrible drop rates in the future to keep you happy.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

I wouldn't worry though, SE already said that they think abbysea was a mistake, so expect more shitty NMs and horrible drop rates in the future to keep you happy.

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O joy, lol. I'm just concerned, is all. If the cap where made easier, but things like VW didn't give temp items every HQ proc, or WOE didn't have auto-rr, then I'd understand, but I see it as a bigger picture. It's not that the 99cap was made easier, it's that everything is easier and new stuff is easier, and all the content coming out has been made easier, it's that few things require team work.

I couldn't get past COP because I couldn't find people willing to level certain jobs in order to win certain fights. At the time I was new, but I leveled ninja just to beat a Cop 2-5. Thats' the difference, I understand more about what the complaint is, and I can accept the 99cap being made easier because less people are willing to work together on content that gets outdated and go back to help future new players with 99cap, like cop was when I started doing it, before the cap removal but after most people doing endgame had sea access. But I was heart broken when the COP cap was lifted, even though I hadn't beaten it or come close to Sea access, it was soooo much fun doing COP becasue it was insanely hard and hence rewarding.

I'd agree with making the 99cap easier, I'd be all for it, if other things in the game required team work, hence making the difficulty challenging, it is an MMO. I worry that the next content add-on will be more like abyssea and less like COP or dynamis, where wiping was common place if people didn't pay attention or weren't organized. If organizing 18 people is too much, make new events that are for 6 man parties.

IDK, I just know that I'm upset about new content being not as challengiong as content that I remember, and perhaps because the new content is not as challenging, that I feel teased when I saw the video of the 99cap being hard and I felt SE was finally going to introduce harder contenet, only to have my hopes dashed by a sudden reversal. That's where the anger comes in. It's focused on the 99cap, because after so long it seemed they where going to start introducing harder content, and then immediately it reverted to current easy button stuff.

Conclusion: I agree with you, I see the light, it's ok to have easier 99 cap, but it seems to predict the future of the game as lacking challenge because everything introduced lately has been lacking in challenge. It's fun to a degree, I'm rather easy to please, I like leveling my adventuring fellow and getting all the mythic weapons skills and quested ws for crying out loud, and that's boring and easy. But for certain things like end game and caps, I want epicness. The memories I have of this game is the fear that promys put into me, that dynamis had my heart pounding. My heart doesn't pound anymore unless I'm soloing a new NM or something.

Hah! I still remember joining a PUG for the airship fight. I fell asleep after 2 hours of shouting for the 5th and 6th person. I woke up 7 hours later, turned on my monitor, and the 6th person had just joined our group. Good times.

I believe I spent most of the day shouting/organizing Bv1, so yea your absolutely right there are somethings that will not be missed.