[dev1000] Dyna Reborn!(This is a joke...right?....Right?)

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

The funny, albeit interesting part about this is that all of the real "elitist" players posting in both this and the other thread were against those things. To be honest I haven't seen a legitimately elitist player complaining about things being made easier in quite a while. They pop up occasionally on BG, but they're typically people who've quit anyways. Or relic holders, but it's really hard to blame them, ha.

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I quoted "elitist"

I look at this a bit differently, people who accept something as something and does not like change, wanting things to be a specific way only, as this is the best way for it, or how they feel things should be.

So when change comes, they are quick to complain/judge and such about it.

Ah, I see. That's definitely different from the meaning I'm used to hearing. Not mutually exclusive, or inclusive. But definitely different. In that case I agree completely.

i can understand some peoples frustration with the changes because it took so long to get relics.. but frankly it had been too ridiculously long and tedious to get one for a long time.. its finally going to be accessible for everyone with a dream of getting a relic and finishing it in a timely matter..it doesn't help that alot of people dont do namis any more and are selling currency at a ridiculously high price.. i love these changes and cant wait for them to be implemented!

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Originally Posted by Krystal

After all these years of players working their butts off to get their hard earned relic pieces...after all the work of farming for gil to buy those darned hourglasses....SE is seriously going to revamp Dyna in a fashion to make it more readily accessible and PLUS have mobs give them exp? If they did this a few months after Dyna's release i'd be hoping for joy...but after all this...after they've done made abyssea a leech zone for lazy players who don't want to earn their levels after all that work? they're going to turn it into a darned exp zone?! what's next?! they gonna drop the level cap from 65-30 on that one too?! oh and while their at it...might as well rename dyna "Abyssea II"! i mean seriously people....after all the hard work we put into getting our relic...the losing of exp and working up a buffer knowing we would just lose it again..and now seeing this? making the mobs actually give exp now? it's a slap in the face to us players who have been with this game since the beginning!(psst! SE! forget dyna zones and focus on raising that darned level cap to 70!) but anyways back on subject. once again SE is bowing down to what the complainers and the lazy players want! Any thoughts on this? becuase i got loads but i want to hear other's opinions.*is expecting some player who wants everything easy to post first*

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I'm looking forward to the Dynamis changes. I've got a couple of sets that are 4/5 pieces and I'd like to finish them off. No one does Dynamis runs regularly anymore so this change will be really nice.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

After all these years of players working their butts off to get their hard earned relic pieces...after all the work of farming for gil to buy those darned hourglasses....SE is seriously going to revamp Dyna in a fashion to make it more readily accessible and PLUS have mobs give them exp? If they did this a few months after Dyna's release i'd be hoping for joy...but after all this...after they've done made abyssea a leech zone for lazy players who don't want to earn their levels after all that work? they're going to turn it into a darned exp zone?! what's next?! they gonna drop the level cap from 65-30 on that one too?! oh and while their at it...might as well rename dyna "Abyssea II"! i mean seriously people....after all the hard work we put into getting our relic...the losing of exp and working up a buffer knowing we would just lose it again..and now seeing this? making the mobs actually give exp now? it's a slap in the face to us players who have been with this game since the beginning!(psst! SE! forget dyna zones and focus on raising that darned level cap to 70!) but anyways back on subject. once again SE is bowing down to what the complainers and the lazy players want! Any thoughts on this? becuase i got loads but i want to hear other's opinions.*is expecting some player who wants everything easy to post first*

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For someone that has actively complained about everything in this game it's a wonder why you still even bother playing. You're seriously complaining about SE revamping old / obsolete content? Here's a hint as to why they're doing that: this game is over eight years old. The majority of the "new" players are ones that are returning; of which I'm sure more than half had originally quit because of problems with the old systems. You sit here and complain that SE is making changes to this game, you incessantly cry over abyssea and changes made to the exp system in general, and now you want to actually make the claim that this dynamis update is somehow going to take away players' "hard work"? What work? The most difficult thing there was to do in dynamis was staying awake for the 3+ hours it usually ran.

So while you are sitting at your computer intently looking for the next great injustice brought about by the dev team why don't you try to keep a few things in mind:

1. No one is forcing you to participate in any of the content in this game
2. If there are so many people that feel as strongly as you do that the devil (Abyssea, easier exp, revamped content) is a bane to the existence of this game then perhaps you should all congregate together on a server and actively not participate, or protest, or burn books, or whatever it is you people do with your time
3. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that others aren't enjoying it
4. Realize it's a game and if you don't like the changes being made you are always free to voice your opinion quitting the game.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

After all these years of players working their butts off to get their hard earned relic pieces...after all the work of farming for gil to buy those darned hourglasses....SE is seriously going to revamp Dyna in a fashion to make it more readily accessible and PLUS have mobs give them exp? If they did this a few months after Dyna's release i'd be hoping for joy...but after all this...after they've done made abyssea a leech zone for lazy players who don't want to earn their levels after all that work? they're going to turn it into a darned exp zone?! what's next?! they gonna drop the level cap from 65-30 on that one too?! oh and while their at it...might as well rename dyna "Abyssea II"! i mean seriously people....after all the hard work we put into getting our relic...the losing of exp and working up a buffer knowing we would just lose it again..and now seeing this? making the mobs actually give exp now? it's a slap in the face to us players who have been with this game since the beginning!(psst! SE! forget dyna zones and focus on raising that darned level cap to 70!) but anyways back on subject. once again SE is bowing down to what the complainers and the lazy players want! Any thoughts on this? becuase i got loads but i want to hear other's opinions.*is expecting some player who wants everything easy to post first*

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The FFXI player base has dropped out the bottom. Changes have to be made.

All this shows is that games companies give in to people crying "this game is too hard" "i only get to play for 1hr a day but i should get everything" its what we are seeing all around the games industry, watering down games to satisfy people who cant be bothered to work things out or put any time into them.

Look at ff1-9, you had to think about things, work things out, you werent always told where to go you had to work that out as well, now you just follow a path and get everywhere you need to go with no inteligence what so ever.

and to the people saying how dynamis is (soon to be was) is just a time sink, guess what, time sinks have been in games forever. How about SE just send a relic, mythic, lvl90 empyrian to everyones delivery boxes for no work at all?

One thing that anoyed me was in the ffxiv alpha test when people were crying for tutorials, when they werent needed, people just couldnt be bothered to work things out.

ITT: People who care too much about others.

"It was hard for me it should be hard for them"

It's becoming better for EVERYONE.

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

ITT: People who care too much about others.

"It was hard for me it should be hard for them"

It's becoming better for EVERYONE.

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Its not becoming better for everyone, easy games are boring, most people I know want to play long, challenging games, but games companies want to make them easy and short. when you can get lvl 30-90 and get a full relic in 1 month the game is too easy and subscritpions will fall, the casual players are the minority of the player base, and the only reason hardcore players do the pathetically easy content now is because the gear is better.

I am only keeping my subscription in the hope that SE stops what they are doing and puts some challenge into the game. if they dont they might as well just send all the best gear directly to the players and kill the game because it will die if they dont make it more of a challenge

As a long time enjoyer of Dynamis, I'm kind of sad to see the old method put to rest. half of me inside is all giddy about it though lol. After having RDM to level for so long, and over 5 years of doing Dynamis' and seeing so many hats going to others (for the most part was excited to see them get it, but still cried a little inside each time haha) now I can see it easier to get the darn thing.
I think I saw that this is only the original Dynamis zones?? Maybe I read it wrong but I see that as SE saying "OK alot of people will be unhappy, some will like it some wont. Lets compromise, we'll take the "easy" zones and make it "more accessible" but leave some of the zones for the more "Old-fashioned" players." Win for everyone? Sounds like it.
Maybe it's just me, but I still have faith in SE that at some point, when 99 is reached, a great new end game idea will be released. Abyssea will be the means to level and skill to get there, but there will be new challenges like the old Sky/Sea/Dynamis areas we all hold so dear to our hearts that we love to hate.
Also, I think maybe the idea of this forum was for SE to get a better understanding of what people want, how about instead of criticizing all the changes they implement, we give cheers for them just trying to revamp the game we all love(no im not saying everyone criticizes everything in forums not meaning any insult to anyone) and trying to make it interesting in some fashion. If we can provide well thought ideas on things we might like to see added maybe its something they can start implementing for us.
I know I went off Dynamis topic, I'm sorry to rant on lol. But, yea, go SE keep making the game relevant and exciting /cheer