I don't know what the big deal is. Soloing now, almost nets you the same amount of exp you used to get in a party. If you duo, you can get even more by chaining EM and T. Granted, parties now will give huge amounts of EXP, but it still doesn't take that long to level solo. With FoV's thrown into the mix, it's pretty amazing how fast you can climb levels. On a side note, there have been a lot more parties outside of Aby, since they increased exp and changed FoV, at least on Unicorn there has been. I think we just have to be patient and wait to see what will happen with the next version update. Plus, if you think there is not many people doing low level parties, once the level cap increases again, the low level parties will all but disappear for at least a month or so.
Abyssea ruined low level XP parties
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03-10-2011, 08:26 PMWade
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03-10-2011, 08:40 PMRunespiderI disagree, new players and most everyone else for that matter sure wants to do them. You didn't read my post so ill say it again, people that would make parties and invite low level players to kill mobs in a party now make abyssea allainces or leech off ls/friends. This means normal parties no longer are made and so anyone that wants to XP in any other way except solo FoV can't.Quote:
It only ruined low level exp parties because no one wants to do them. If people wanted to join such parties, then they would. But they don't want to, so they don't.
Not sure why you want to force your play style on everyone else.
It hurts most normal players and especialy new players that are starting up and/or returnees without contacts willing to let them leech. The leeching system is forcing everyone else that can't to solo in a game designed to group up.
This is an MMO, an MMO that's famed for it's community. You don't get much into the community or have many opportunities to make friends/get into a linkshell solo. It is a big deal.Quote:
I don't know what the big deal is. Soloing now, almost nets you the same amount of exp you used to get in a party.
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03-10-2011, 08:48 PMrogIf there were enough people that wanted to do such parties, then there wouldn't be a problem. But there's not very many people who are interested in them, hence the "problem".Quote:
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03-10-2011, 08:52 PMAvariceOh, cool! I didn't know you were a mind reader.Quote:
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Wouldn't this thus mean Abyssea alliances are now the "normal" parties?Quote:
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Normal people doing the norm. That's so unethical and dangerous.Quote:
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This statement is completely besides the point, but I'd like to point out that if people wanted to make friends or get into a linkshell, they'd make friends or get into a linkshell. It's really not as hard to initiate a conversation as you're making it out to be.Quote:
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03-10-2011, 08:55 PMCream_SodaIn my opinion, people this little resourceful are the worst type of players in the game. They're even worse than a leech who makes his own alliance because they're at least willing to work to build that alliance, where as the person you're describing is 100% expecting the work to come from someone else in every situation.Quote:
Some will never ever make a party, lack of confidence or whatever
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03-10-2011, 08:56 PMRunespiderI sure see enough low level players leeching in Abyssea to know they want to level jobs and if leeching was gone they would have to find alternatives, for most the other leeching alternatives are out of the question so yeah it would fix the problem.Quote:
If there were enough people that wanted to do such parties, then there wouldn't be a problem. But there's not very many people who are interested in them, hence the "problem".
I didn't read this particular post, no, but it's ok, because i've read the same post a thousand times before.
As for the last line well maybe you should refrain from replying to posts you don't care enough about to read. Raising post counts i'm sure is a serious concern to you so i'll take any further replies you make as that and be sure to skim over them. -
03-10-2011, 09:01 PMMetalKhaos
I know exactly what you're talking about Yopop! It's kind of funny how I see people with all these jobs, gear and so forth, but have no idea about a lot of the stuff in the game. I finally finished CoP (Funny since I started when it was released XD, those mammets are my bane) and I talk to people who have multiple finished jobs, and didn't even do that OR know that were fights after (Bahamut, Keeper of Apocalypse). Though it has never felt the same as when FFXI was first released, I'm glad that all the stuff I've learned over the years by grinding.
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03-10-2011, 09:02 PMWadeLeveling solo for low level has nothing to do with talking to people. I talk to people all the time, yet I solo [Dual Box] 85% of the time. Most of the parties I have been in, there is not much talking. A few conversations at best and usually between the people in the party who actually knew each other. Perhaps this is because I am not an outgoing person, but that is just usually how it seems to go in most of the parties I have been in outside of LS ones.Quote:
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03-10-2011, 09:03 PMCream_Sodayea because smn burns are really that out of the question!Quote:
and if leeching was gone they would have to find alternatives, for most the other leeching alternatives are out of the question so yeah it would fix the problem.
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03-10-2011, 09:09 PMRunespiderThey are indeed, to make a smn burn you need 2-3 summoners, 1-2 pullers that know how to pull and not die and most importanly a level sync that has to be continually deleveled. You also have very few zones that it can be done well in and have to deal with competition.Quote:
yea because smn burns are really that out of the question!
To leech in aby you either simply need to shout to build an alliance or tag along with friends/ls, for most people making a summoner burn is not going to be something that would happen.