[dev1015] Still no Abyssea VNM adjustments still a major point of congestion

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Originally Posted by Annalise

Sobek does not require the pop NM (Gukumatz), you can now get it from a gold box. So Sobek can be straight out of the box. You even quoted the update notes which now shows Sobek's time spawn KI is gold box now

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After 120+ Skins that were gold box farmed I'm certain Minax Bugard KI isn't in there, which means Sobek can't be purely gold box farmed, if you have a screen shot showing you getting Bloodstained Bugard Fang from a gold box I'd gladly stand corrected.

Minax Bugard's KI can't be found in a gold chest to my knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Monchat

at least they post in here. You should look at the french or german forums lol. They just dont care. Those forums are some ghost town forum to prove that they care about Fr/Ge when they clearly do not.

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I noticed most euros go to this one anyway. I was like woo french then i go there and its nearly devoid of people lol

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Originally Posted by Arcon

To my knowledge you can't get the Bugard KI from a box.

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I forgot that one isn't, though wiki says it is. That one is really easy to get though, it doesn't really limit Sobek popping at least.

let's put it simply, whoever designed the VNM system and made it the exclusive means of obtaining certain gear needs to have their reproductive organs removed slowly with a dull, rusty saw without benefit of anesthesia. 15 months of effort with no return, generally not even a claim is too long to spend in anything. Honestly, I'm thinking it would be more beneficial to spend my monthly fee on therapy, except that the reason I started playing in the 1st place is the cathartic release of killing bad guys in make-believe instead of RL is healthier, and MUCH cheaper than psychiatric bills.

Either the gear needs to be added to other drop systems or the claim systems need to be made an instanced forced pop based solely on the possession of the appropriate abyssite. Fine, make us chase the damn pop if you think this is actually entertaining (the term you are looking for to describe the type who does is "sadist"), but don't make it dependent on the last time anyone on an entire server claimed it.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Howdy!

Though we won't be able to make it in time for the upcoming version update, we have decided to increase the rate in which the Clear Demilune Abyssite changes into a Colored Demilune Abyssite. This will be reflected on the test server a little after the version update takes place.

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This isn't the issue SEshill. There needs to be more than one monster up per area that can drop the items needed, there needs to be shorter respawn rates than one hour each, and the drops need to be from more than just three areas or soul camping will always be less fun than getting your arm gnawed off by a rabbit.

Respawn isnt one hour.

Souls arent as bad as people make it out to be. Seems a lot of people dont account for it being balanced in this way since there are no outside VNMs or NMs needed.

All other empyrean NMs may have a Timed Spawn NM that has to be killed (Or gold boxed).
However, with the right means it is garanteed you will get the KI from that kill to pop the NM fro your empyrean materials.

The Shield and Harp's Timed T2 VNM arguably is to provide a time sink similar to that of the otehr Empyrean material NMs.
However, there is never a garantee that you will get the KI from that kill to pop.

If you had every resource available and no competion, you could Claim the timed NM, get it's KI, pop and kill the popped NMs, get their KI and have a full popset ready very quickly. For VNMs, if you had every resource available to you and no competition, it could theoretically be possible to NEVER get the KI needed for the final NM.

That's not balanced.