Nerf Beastmaster

The most sensible compromise would be to make ready damage relative to master proximity, either by applying an atk/m.atk penalty according to range, or more likely an acc/m.acc penalty as that would also affect enfeebling ready moves.

The range limitation on reward needs relaxing, and the ones on RW/Spur need abolishing altogether as they are just pointlessly annoying.

I suspect SE may consider this when they see the activity heuristics come the end of October. There's been a noticeable drop in activity already on my server and I suspect its going to get a lot worse once this month's campaigns end.

Applying a change like this after the Job Point system encourages specialization on a particular job is really sticking in a lot of folk's craws. Not to mention the September patch has added a lot of high difficulty content with largely unexceptional rewards.

As many pointed out, being chained to our pet is a fun-sinker thing because every person that cried about BST was about the damage we can dish out and that didnt change 1 bit so i think more than people thinking "people needs some small nerf" it comes down to
"how can i be outparsed by a BST!!! NERF NERF NERF", this is total bs tbh.

And things like these are very detrimental for square-enix, me as a player wont recommend any of my friends, communities etc., a game where you could play XX class for 12 years and suddenly getting a nerf and making it non-fun to play, i really hope SE thinks twice about this because FF11 is on the downroad now and ppl that quit because of this BS wont go to 14 to try their luck lol, i wouldnt.

And to give you an example how far how the range nerf works, ill give you examples for another jobs:

Imagine:

- Ninja without utsusemi
- Blue mage without the 100/1200 JP gift
- Black mage without fast cast
- White mage without -cure casting time

And so on, i could keep going but i think this gives an idea how a fun-killer these kind of nerfs can be, the job is still playable of course (i do it daily) but having to chase the pet when multiple enemies attack it and there's casters making the pet go back and forth is just annoying.

Nerfing pet moves potency on debuffs and spur were already big hits for BST but guess the ppl that cried out loud didnt stop til something absurd like this happened.

Hope this is reconsidered.

P.S.: And please skip hating comments, i pay to have fun with the jobs i choose and not the jobs ppl think should be standard (sam rng ranged setup bla bla), when you go to a restaurant what do u choose? what you want and not what the guy on the next table tells you so this is the same.

I rarely post on any ffxi forums but here goes my opinion. Beast Master was the only reason I've played this game for over a decade. Every since I heard the news about the Beast Master changes this last update I haven't even bothered downloading the update. I have absolutely no desire to play and quit frankly feel betrayed by SE. After all these years they ruined my reason to play right at the end. It makes zero sense. You can't play the job this way and I'm not even going to try.

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Originally Posted by Faithful

I rarely post on any ffxi forums but here goes my opinion. Beast Master was the only reason I've played this game for over a decade. Every since I heard the news about the Beast Master changes this last update I haven't even bothered downloading the update. I have absolutely no desire to play and quit frankly feel betrayed by SE. After all these years they ruined my reason to play right at the end. It makes zero sense. You can't play the job this way and I'm not even going to try.

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/comfort...

My sub ends tomorrow. Each day, I've checked out the forums hoping for some word from SE that they realize they made a huge mistake and would fix it. I love this game. I have six 99 jobs and various ones spread between 50 and 90. Doesn't mean much in this day and age, but I enjoy leveling to 99 so I don't leech. I have 7 crafting mules because I love crafting. BST has never been welcome in end game, and I've been fine with playing other jobs, and adapted to the BST changes over the years.

So I logged in to check out the changes, then tried to focus on other things. Prior to this, I had been duoing blue with my son some, and helping out a friend who just came back to the game anyway (like an idiot I encouraged him with how many GREAT changes have been made to be more casual friendly, and he now enjoys playing again...).

But this change is so bad and unreal, I can't get past the feelings this change gives me. I can't decide if SE really doesn't understand what they did or if they intentionally wanted to kill the job. I'm not sure which answer I'd prefer either. I'm disappointed at being so close to the end of updates with a game that I've loved this long and leaving now, but I feel betrayed too. I hate SE every time I log on now, and every time I hear people cheering at the pain of BSTs.

I bought the collector's edition of 14 and stuck with that horrible original version as long as I could. I played ARR as well and always figured when I had completely exhausted FFXI, then I'd probably go back to try it again. I know I would have tried whatever new mobile platform SE put FFXI on. Now I will never look at another SE game, period because this is such a betrayal.

I agree 100% this nerf is so bad it makes me want to quit as well - I've played bst as my favorite job since the day I started several years ago (well as soon as I could anyway) - this reduction in range is so bad I can be standing next to the mob and although pet is attacking (from a different side) I'm out of range to use pet command! What is wrong with 1/2 measures when making these changes instead of something so drastic?

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Originally Posted by Faithful

I rarely post on any ffxi forums but here goes my opinion. Beast Master was the only reason I've played this game for over a decade. Every since I heard the news about the Beast Master changes this last update I haven't even bothered downloading the update. I have absolutely no desire to play and quit frankly feel betrayed by SE. After all these years they ruined my reason to play right at the end. It makes zero sense. You can't play the job this way and I'm not even going to try.

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Several members of my ls haven't logged on since the update including our only aymur :( . Some others are considering quitting. And for the ones that are still here we've all predictably switched to other forms of ranged dmg like mages or pup/smn and the support for those

I was fighting Warblade Beak today, getting Handler's earrings.

fun fight... except, I could rarely use ready moves. I had to keep running around... now, you may think thats normal... except. Pet was Zhivago.
zhivago was Melee'ing the NM and so was I.

I was directly BETWEEN the NM and my pet, both of us Melee, and I was too far from pet to use Ready moves. I had to back AWAY from the NM in order to get close enough to use a Ready move.
Its ridiculous that with even a medium sized NM, I am too far away from pet, when I am melee'ing and DIRECTLY between my pet and the NM. This is not like I'm adjacent even. I am right BETWEEN.

It makes the game feel really BUGGY.

I dont understand the mentality of a company that wants people to pay for a soon to be "ending" game (no new /major content more then likely) yet...do everything in their power to remove fun and enjoyment lol

It is so backwards, it makes no sense. If bst was sooooooo OP (it wasnt though) then boost the other jobs somehow to match..never EVER nerf a job a couple months before content ends Oo .....wow. Blind loyalty is a thing of the past, please dont count on it nowadays.

Nothing in this game should even be group based anymore. There is not enough people SE! Having a group should make things a lot easier but not a necessity in a game that lets face it...is ENDING. It will pretty much be replay only status, thats it.

Trusts are OK..but not even close to where they should be.

ffxi holds some of the very very best memories for me, not because of content but because of the very rare decent person I have met in game. Those memories wont hold ppls subscriptions ...but idk making 99% content achievable and enjoyable for any single job certainly would help.

Bst needs to be reverted 100%. Was a huge mistake on their part, unless their goal is to lose more and more of those limited number of players we still do have.
Just my opinion I know, but........lets see

The funny part is that you are actually penalized for bringing more people by giving the NM a higher HP pool and having to share drops with more people.

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Originally Posted by bazookatooth

The funny part is that you are actually penalized for bringing more people by giving the NM a higher HP pool and having to share drops with more people.

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Yeah I don't really understand why they don't increase drop pools. Maybe nothing as crazy as another roll per person like it is for crystals but idk another slot at least per 3 people maybe?