Final Fantasy Vana'Diel Collection 3! (Now with Epic Items~)

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Originally Posted by Fincat

Back my "story" up with what? What story?

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If someone says "Its cos of PS2 limitations!" or "We cant get this because SE dont like it", then its nice to have a link to what SE actually said so we know that the person isnt making it up.

Thats why when I made a statement that SE said that they dont want people to feel like they are "buying" an ingame item with real money, I wanted to add a link to prove my story ^_-

Ah, I see. I thought you were referring to my post, thanks for clarifying.

Honestly I don't feel strongly eather way. "It's a new hat! Yey I'm a Chocobo now! Aww everyone else is a chocobo too... -1 Item space. /toss. But I also agree with the hole loyalty issue. Truth be told I fell away from FFXI for a bit due to /kaiichi get marred. /kaiichi has kids. /kaiichi's children need food. HOWEVER! I can see where you all are comming from. But here's an Idea, can SE have a place on it's sight for all past and present special downloads that we can get by paying a small fee for? I mean i didn't even know about the twitter thing till it was like a mounth over and i can barly get my kids to magic mountion let alone japan for a fan fest.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

I don't understand why people think SE is doing this to fund FFXIV. First of all, do you think SE is so poor they cant support FXIV till they get the bugs worked out? I highly doubt they are trying to nickle and dime their XI users to pay for XIV.

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First of all, yes I do. Second of all, why did you say first of all when there was no second of all?

Of course, I don't think they are *really* poor, but I can see that they don't have unlimited resources with the development of FF14 taking an enormous amount of time and money, and at the same time, some games of theirs have not sold quite as well as expected.

I also think you are underestimating the amount of resources needed to get FF14 as huge as SE had envisioned. I seriously believe that FF14 could end up being shut down permanently within a year or two, which would definitely make a very solid dent in SE's economy.

Another reason why at least I think FF11's subscription incomes are partially tunnelled to the development FF14 is that while FF11 isn't free to maintain, the game did pay itself off many years ago and has been a continuous cash cow ever since. assuming 100k paying subscribers(i think we're still around that), FF11 should generate a yearly revenue of at least 15 million dollars. I don't know how much maintaining FF11 costs, but I think it's far from that much.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

First of all, yes I do. Second of all, why did you say first of all when there was no second of all?

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Lol, awsome XD

Ok, not counting the monthly fees, if we bought all the expansions individually, say at $30 each for the first four (so $120 total there), plus another $60 for the add-ons (up to $180 now), plus $60 for the core game, we've spent $240 or so on the game software registration codes to unlock the content. Now they want $20 more to give us the same thing, plus a bonus item, which someone just joining the game gets for $20 total instead of $260 total.

Yes, some of the monthly fees and game sales go to paying for support for this game, but some of it also goes to profit. We've been giving them steady profit for years, we've been loyal to them. People don't want to purchase from a company or work for a company that isn't loyal to them in return. A money grab like this isn't viewed as a return of loyalty.

People tend to forget XI had a lot of the same problems that XIV had when it came out and took a while for it to finally be up in running in the way it is. NA players arent aware of it because it came out in JP for around a year before it came over seas. There was a while when it was believed XI would be shut down before it ever made it to the USA.

http://www.jpbutton.com/?cat=20

FFXI came out May 16th 2002 in Japan, and sometime in late October 2003 in North America. That link has translations of the update notes from before the American release. NMs weren't even implemented at launch. They also had such server instability that they gave the first 2 months free for a long time.

Yes, it was feared the game would shut down because SquareSoft wanted the PS2 version to be the first release in all countries, since the main novelty of FFXI was that is was the first true MMO on a console, but SCEA wouldn't release the required hardware. Financial pressure finally made them release the PC version first. The Japanese player base alone wasn't quite enough, even with importers, to fund the entire costs of the game, a foreign release was needed.

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Originally Posted by Camate

I'd like to clarify some of your concerns regarding the special items.

The Destrier Beret which is included when you purchase FINAL FANTASY XI ULTIMATE COLLECTION ABYSSEA EDITION is in fact a separate registration code, so even current players who already have these expansions/add-ons can obtain it by purchasing the new collection.

Players that do not already own a Nexus Cape will also receive this when they purchase the new collection.

Every player that currently owns all three Abyssea add-ons or purchases them in the future (whether buy this new collection or separately) will be eligible to receive the Prishe statue.

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This is making us look like a fooool... Not only that the price dropped for all three expansion and the gift is not for those who paid full price...

UGH! I bought the last Abyssea expansion for my new alt a week ago. I wish I'd have known this was coming.
The only upside to this is the fact that I can buy it and save 10 dollars on those failed-ass mini-expansions in case I decide to level BST on my alt.