Job Vision: Watch paint dry

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Now, to have our resident SMN-melee trolls to discount the math again because it goes against them, again.

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Last I checked, dual wield is not a relevant topic for SMN, but you absolutely love talking about every job but SMN. Learn some social skills, and maybe I'll start caring that Korpg wants to talk about some other job.

"This message is hidden because Dallas is on your ignore list."

I hope the rest of you are starting to get the idea and should all be seeing that message too instead of biting every time he trolls a thread!

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

"This message is hidden because Dallas is on your ignore list."

I hope the rest of you are starting to get the idea and should all be seeing that message too instead of biting every time he trolls a thread!

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You're right. Ignoring a troll is their weakness.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

You're right. Ignoring a troll is their weakness.

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!!

Your attack staggers the fiend!

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Originally Posted by Tagrineth

!!

Your attack staggers the fiend!

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lolol

but off topic off topic,

guys playing SMN is like watching paint dry

unless of course you're doing your job and erasing, curing, and controlling your avatar. Maybe even going up and using TP- if you already have it and don't need to obtain it by swinging.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

lolol

but off topic off topic,

guys playing SMN is like watching paint dry

unless of course you're doing your job and erasing, curing, and controlling your avatar. Maybe even going up and using TP- if you already have it and don't need to obtain it by swinging.

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Remind me again why it is:

If you want to play a real melee, change job.

but not

If you want to play a real healer, change job.


Obviously you are just randomly picking your facts to create your own truth, when in fact melee and /WHM are two sides of the same coin.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

Remind me again why it is:

If you want to play a real melee, change job.

but not

If you want to play a real healer, change job.


Obviously you are just randomly picking your facts to create your own truth, when in fact melee and /WHM are two sides of the same coin.

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I'm not saying play a healer

I'm saying play SMN and do something useful with it

Swinging a stick aint so useful, Paralyna is.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

I see what you think this test will do, but in all honesty, what is the purpose of this test? Is it to determine how SMN can stack up to WAR given a solo situation? Party situation? Really, what is the purpose of the test, you think?

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I'm pretty sure I said it is like a BLM nuking level 1 mobs to find base damage on nukes. It is not for checking if a BLM in a party will own level 1 bunnies, but out of curiosity.

In this SMN test, it will show how much of a difference traits and armor selection does. This is a bit more unknown than if there is a difference between G.Axe damage and Staff damage, which for some reason you people want to compare. I mean... what do you expect to find? Staff out-DDing G.Axe? You are only making a mock test to troll.

You could honestly do the same with WAR and DRK if you want to. Equip both with staffs, check how different they are in damage output from traits/armor/spells. That would tell you how close DRK is to WAR, ignoring multi hit crit WSes (which DRKs cry for).

tl;dr it compares melee trait importance, and some armor importance. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

I'm not saying play a healer

I'm saying play SMN and do something useful with it

Swinging a stick aint so useful, Paralyna is.

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It is if the monster has no paralyze.

Might also add that you can swing a stick AND paralyna without any problem at all.

If it doesn't cause any problems, TP feed, stress on WHM.

Undoubtedly though, on any NM worth it's mettle, SMN melee is more hurtful to the party than beneficial.

The situations where SMN can melee are few and far in between.