HQ king triggers

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Originally Posted by Bumbeen

That would eliminate the point of d.ring though if they made it more accessible. It isn't needed for anything except inv+ as mentioned. Nothing in the game requires it, nothing in the game is even made that much easier with it. It's a super rare item and there's no reason to change that. All it would do is depreciate it's value.

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You could've made tha same argument about almighty apkallu was my point.

No one gives a shit about him any more so they made him pop more often.

There's no reason to make Kb/nid/aspid poppable if you add insane requirements to pop them. They've basically just wasted a whole lot of time and havent changed anything.

Anyway, doesn't look like SE is gonna change it any time soon. Guess my LS will just continue ignoring kings like we always have.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

Capping -DT more efficiently is always going to be mildly useful. Shadow Ring, Shadow Mantle, MDT and PDT capped at the same time, etc. Not worth a billion seals and hours spent popping Behemoths and doing KS99s though.

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Because an item that procs 5% of the time is so useful. The arch DL drops seem better too but probably still have a too low proc rate to be useful.

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Originally Posted by Bumbeen

That would eliminate the point of d.ring though if they made it more accessible. It isn't needed for anything except inv+ as mentioned. Nothing in the game requires it, nothing in the game is even made that much easier with it. It's a super rare item and there's no reason to change that. All it would do is depreciate it's value.

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Sorry but verethragna lvl 90 makes you a god compared to before yet every one has it so why not apply this to Dring ? On a scale of usefulness, D ring is worth 1 and vere 100, noone has Dring everyone has vere...

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Do you want every single person in the game to all have the best equipment for every single job?

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Isn't this the case already ?

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Originally Posted by Raksha

No one gives a shit about him any more so they made him pop more often.

There's no reason to make Kb/nid/aspid poppable if you add insane requirements to pop them. They've basically just wasted a whole lot of time and havent changed anything.

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Thats just the problem. Most of the drops are obsoleted, so they move to pop NM's, but make it so the HQ are beyond rare, why?

Buy themis orb 500k, 10x for HQ trigger, 20x of those for dring. 100mil on average for d.ring. Sounds right? I don't know if you can buy themis orbs for 500k though.

Selling the tongues would offset that cost by a lot as well.

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Originally Posted by DebbieGibson

Buy themis orb 500k, 10x for HQ trigger, 20x of those for dring. 100mil on average for d.ring. Sounds right? I don't know if you can buy themis orbs for 500k though.

Selling the tongues would offset that cost by a lot as well.

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except it'd be 12 orbs with th9+ * 20 = 240 * 500.000 = 120.000.000

But what's another 20mil amirite?

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Originally Posted by Raksha

except it'd be 12 orbs with th9+ * 20 = 240 * 500.000 = 120.000.000

But what's another 20mil amirite?

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ffxiah lists 1m in a couple baz with 500k in one. You can probably shout and get noobs who think 500k is a lot of gil though. Even if it cost you 1m though, if you can afford 120m worth of themis orbs you can afford 240m too most likely. So all in all not bad for a rank 1 bonanza prize.

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Originally Posted by DebbieGibson

ffxiah lists 1m in a couple baz with 500k in one. You can probably shout and get noobs who think 500k is a lot of gil though. Even if it cost you 1m though, if you can afford 120m worth of themis orbs you can afford 240m too most likely. So all in all not bad for a rank 1 bonanza prize.

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Kinda funny buying d.rings from noobs instead of big shells don't you think?

Apologies for the necrobump here, but I'd like to chime in with my own personal experience since the update.

Me and two of my friends have been scraping our seals together in an effort to get my Black Belt, and frankly, at this point, the grind is getting almost ridiculous - I am by no means expecting things to be handed to me on a silver platter, but my current record stands like this:

Bearing in mind I had a THF present at every NQ king pop with at least TH8.

Early Bird Catches the Wyrm:
Wyrm Beard -1/7, Nidhogg pops - 0

Horns of War:
Behemoth Tongue - 0/15, King Behemoth pops - 0

I haven't even attempted The Hills are Alive yet, but I'm sure I'm not alone in seeing numbers similar to these.

At this stage, I've spent over 2600 seals/crests across 3 characters (300 alone for one orb last night). At this stage I'm wondering why on Earth the drop rates for these items, and the means to obtain them are in such a state. Considering the redundancy of a lot of gear from kings, I wonder why the pops are so rare at this point. Considering the scarce nature of Kindred Seals in this point in the game, I wonder why a 3:1 ratio was imposed on all seals, rather than a straight 1:1 or even a tiered system (all seals and crests drop with the same frequency and in the same pool!).

I can't help but feel the development team is slipping into old habits post Abyssea, and back into the habit of giving a depressing effort to reward ratio for events now and forthcoming. :/

Well since it got necro'd I'll add more numbers:

9 early birds, 1 beard, 1 speed belt, 0 ridills, 0 nidhoggs.

On 4 NQ faffys we got 3 HQ nidhoggs. 1 beard from the 99 2 from the HQ. no lolridills 2 e.bodys, 2 n.legs and 2 n.heads