Final Fantasy Vana'Diel Collection 3! (Now with Epic Items~)

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Oh I'm sure they will. Hell, I'm gonna buy it (granted I need the abyssea xpacks for a mule). If I did not need the xpacks, I would not purchase it though. I mean really, who has jobs under 30 they plan to level anymore anyway?

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Now you're assuming something that people have explained was wrong a few times already. Not everyone is in it for the stats (although plenty of people, including me, still would profit from it). Some people just want the item to wear, others just want it for the collection value. And no, just because it's a collection it shouldn't require real money. Stuff in a game is supposed to be attained through effort in a game. Many games trampeled on this concept, SE never did until a while ago (was Tidal Talisman the first item? Not sure). As I said, it was one of the things many people found attractive about the game, and while it's still better than many games out there, I still think it's a step in the wrong direction. I don't care about the money at all, it's the principle that matters.

I'll be buying the collection for the item. If I didn't have a mule that needed the expansions, I would still be buying it for the item. Done it before, I'll do it again. Yay cute hat for my mule!

I didn't buy the silly piano CD full of music for the sheer enjoyment of listening to the same shit I can hear day in and day out, or play myself. I bought it for the cool harpsichord. I didn't buy a token for "added security," I bought it for the satchel. In this case, you're paying $20 for cute and some cool stuff if you have jobs under 30.

It's a marketing ploy, companies do it all the time. Buy it or don't!

I'm curious if people would be as outraged if SE just offered the in-game item for $20, with no attachment to anything else. I think they would make a mint on cool in-game items to buy for RL money and never understood why they don't do it more often. /shrug

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Now you're assuming something that people have explained was wrong a few times already. Not everyone is in it for the stats (although plenty of people, including me, still would profit from it). Some people just want the item to wear, others just want it for the collection value. And no, just because it's a collection it shouldn't require real money.

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So, you're saying I should be able to get the collection free for my mule? I'm cool with that too.

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Originally Posted by Fincat

I'm curious if people would be as outraged if SE just offered the in-game item for $20, with no attachment to anything else. I think they would make a mint on cool in-game items to buy for RL money and never understood why they don't do it more often. /shrug

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I can bet the majority of them would have it the first day, adorning it in Port Jeuno for everyone to see.

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Originally Posted by Fincat

I'm curious if people would be as outraged if SE just offered the in-game item for $20, with no attachment to anything else.

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Not quite as much, because at least it wouldn't be disrespectful. It would still be RMT and I would still condemn it.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

So, you're saying I should be able to get the collection free for my mule? I'm cool with that too.

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No, that's not what I'm saying.

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Originally Posted by Fincat

I'm curious if people would be as outraged if SE just offered the in-game item for $20, with no attachment to anything else. I think they would make a mint on cool in-game items to buy for RL money and never understood why they don't do it more often. /shrug

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Actually, that is right on. I think it's more the connection that it's attached to something I have bought 3 times over. Add to that, that I do need the replacements for PS2 and 360 because SE screwed that up with their poor download protocol and I am missing either a disk or, in the case of the PS2, the CD-Rom has ceased to function. But, it's only attached to the PC system, which is the only one of my 3 systems that doesn't need it again.

Wow... half the people on this forum are nuts. SE created a new item to help NEW players deal with the endgame-heavy state of FFXI... and you feel ENTITLED to it? Who the hell do you think you are? There was no clause in the Terms of Service when you signed up that said "Any and all content we produce for sale if the future is included in your current monthly subscription". It's a NEW PRODUCT.

Be happy that this new package will be appealing to new and returning players - bringing new life to our servers and new opportunities to meet people. Be happy that if this item is something you REALLY want - it's now available for purchase. Be appreciative of the fact that SE and the new FFXI dev team ARE STILL WORKING ON A 9-YEAR-OLD GAME and looking for ways (like this) to entice new players to join our community.

Also, here's a free Prishe statue. ^^

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The fact that SE markets this as a bonus to new players (which is unfair to begin with) is disrespectful to the playerbase, because everyone knows what this is really about. All SE is doing here is real money trade. And that was one of the most attractive features of FFXI when I started.

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FFXI is not what it was, to Square it's simply a cashcow now. Their main focus is still going to be on FFXIV. To this end we will probably see more RMT for ingame items and stuff like this, you need to realise where we are in time with this game and how much money Square need to support 14.

Either buy the pack for the ingame item or don't.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

FFXI is not what it was, to Square it's simply a cashcow now. Their main focus is still going to be on FFXIV. To this end we will probably see more RMT for ingame items and stuff like this, you need to realise where we are in time with this game and how much money Square need to support 14.

Either buy the pack for the ingame item or don't.

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I will be interested to see what happens with XIV. I have no plans whatsoever to play. This is the only MMORPG I will ever play. And, when I'm done with it, I'm done with MMORPG's. The launch of XIV was seriously bungled. So, that undoubtedly lost them some players. I'll be watching the re-launch to see their strategy for attracting people to the game.

*Headesk!*
This is really silly. So much crying over silliness. So this is the state of our playerbase? Whiny kids who feel like they're entitled to everything just because they're paying for a service they've already been getting.