Monstrosity Feedback

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

So... don't fight stuff that does atk down on you? This isn't rocket surgery, here.

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Your right, its not, its simple, just don't give a mob without TP moves super low attack in this form. If you want to give it low attack, do it normally, I assume all of these mobs have a different method of getting attack, I wouldn't know for sure, never check, if so, instead of making a -attack % penalty, there are 2 other ways to do it, either make it naturally just suck at attack, or B, make it a scaling penalty that goes up with every level. Making it a -attack % that stacks is stupid. I guess I can never play as a Chigoe against other players, no matter my level and no matter my type or class, I get to know that a lovely Bio II & some BLU spells or other such abilities will make my attack so low I cant touch them because I flat out suck thanks to a race based penalty.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

So... don't fight stuff that does atk down on you? This isn't rocket surgery, here.

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Thank you for admitting it's a problem that you HAVE to work around :). And one you have zero choice in once you start doing mvm and mvp. Also you face very similar problems on high def +def move mobs.

Not everything is going to be equally good. It can't be done, and even if it could... surprise, that would make things boring. Frankly, the system already IS boring due to how similar most of the monsters play out (mindless auto-attacking things to death and actually succeeding due to ridiculous amounts of HP and HP regeneration), and right now we only have a small fraction of what will eventually be available. If something doesn't tickle your fancy, don't play it. Man, you people act like tiers never existed before in fighting games with loads of characters.

I personally found chigoe to be a change of pace, because it isn't as durable as most other monsters and you have to actually pay more attention to your prey, because that IT++ high def enemy is going to fare a lot better against you than it would on almost any other monster. Nevertheless, I still got it to 60 for my haste+5 instinct, as I imagine most of you will, want to, or already have. It's Monstrosity on hard mode (at least comparatively speaking; playing on almost any other monster feels like easymode in comparison) with a nice reward for sticking it out to at least level 60. Suck it up or go play something else. There's like 50 or so other easymode monsters to use right now and they aren't going to be the last.

Again thank you for admitting it's a problem with your non solution solutions.

If something is broke just pretend it doesn't exist brillant. Never try to fix it. Hell let's treat everything in the game like that. If you don't like it just don't play it. And since there is no to improve on anything in the game or our playing of it let's just do away with the OF they really serve no prupose then. And heck by your logic if what I have to say isn't your cup of tea then just don't read it and don't respond

And oh my I never knew that something that litterally reduces the mobs ability dmg to 0 making it unplayable is just not equally good. Your grasp of the situation is so amazing I don't know what else to say other than I can't wait for your next post about how we should just stick our heads in the sand

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Again thank you for admitting it's a problem with your non solution solutions.

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Except I never said that it was a problem, nor that it is broken. Don't put words in my mouth.

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And oh my I never knew that something that litterally reduces the mobs ability dmg to 0 making it unplayable is just not equally good.

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Oh crap, this mob just petrified me. My ability to do damage is now zero! I'm calling bs, remove petrification from the game!

Try again.

Totally the same thing...

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Totally the same thing...

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My point exactly

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

My point exactly

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Except its not, here, lets take SAM & give it a -40% Attack penalty. It gets TP faster than other jobs, so it WSs faster, the Attack bonus on most of its WSs can make up for the penalty, but it should be balanced, right? How about DRG, they got a Wyvern, support abilities unlike other 2-handed DDs, perhaps we should give them some massive penalty to the job too right? Or DRK, just give them a -40% defense native effect, because after all, its a massive offensive job, tons of attack on that one, should take out its defense so its fair.

No, that's stupid. Chigoes are simply broken. Under the rules of the game when fighting an enemy version of them, it works, because they have special rules that will not allow them to become so worthless, that's why level 1 mobs can hit any level 99 for DMG still, but in the case of us players... its different. We can hit for 0 due to these penalties, they effect us in a much worse and terrible way. If they simply gave us low attack, it would be better, at least then the attack down effects we get from any source would not instantly get a super boost to potency due to our race.

As it has been said, the race attacks a little faster, yippy, but the -attack & no TPs alone is more than enough to make the race suck to the point of being nearly unplayable because of how horrible it is. There is no, 0, zilch, nada reasoning for why this should be stackable with other effects similar to itself in a way that makes a Chigoe basically worthless for physical combat simply because their race was made to have a foolishly implemented naturally unavoidable penalty which brings it down. As I said, I hope no one wants to play as a Chigoe when PvP comes out for this event, because it already is hopeless seeing as unless they change the rules for player monsters, 1 attack down effect is all it takes to make your damage drop to crap.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Man, you people act like tiers never existed before in fighting games with loads of characters.

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Who knows, maybe the community will go the Pokemon route and make up their own tiers (smogon, official, etc. complete with different clauses and subsets of rules). That's a pretty exciting prospect to me.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Except I never said that it was a problem, nor that it is broken. Don't put words in my mouth.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

So... don't fight stuff that does atk down on you? This isn't rocket surgery, here.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

don't play it.

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Yes you clearly aren't admitting it's a problem when your solution to things is either just don't play large parts of it or don't play it at all. That sticking your in the sand and pretending there is nothing to see clearly isn't saying there is a problem. Your mastery over logic is simply breathtaking. I'd say I couldn't wait for your next stroke of brillance but you already had another one

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Oh crap, this mob just petrified me. My ability to do damage is now zero! I'm calling bs, remove petrification from the game!

Try again.

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Because yes something that only does that to 1 mob is totally the same as something that does that to everything. Even better a rather common ability is the same as a fairly rare one. I can't wait for your next totally apt comparison.