[Dev] PS2 User Poll

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Not surprised. The point was that you saying "there's no need to change" is pointless, because change is never needed, however it's almost always wanted.

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Uhh...huh?? Is that what you comprehend from my post, Lord you must be touched..

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Originally Posted by Zerich

You're embarrassing and trying too hard.

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Good I glad you're embarrassed for me for wanting the new expansion available on ps2 or ffxi available for ps3, I'll make a note of that embarrassment you have.

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

Good I glad you're embarrassed for me for wanting the new expansion available on ps2 or ffxi available for ps3, I'll make a note of that embarrassment you have.

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i'm embarrassed for you trolling too hard. or if you aren't trolling, for being so terrible.

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Originally Posted by Zerich

i'm embarrassed for you trolling too hard. or if you aren't trolling, for being so terrible.

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Ok, whatever you say buddy, you can go away now.

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

Ok, whatever you say buddy, you can go away now.

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Everything you say is, much like this entire thread, pointless, because the decision has been made. You, least of all, have the right to tell anyone to go away.

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

I dont know anyone who has the power to keep trolls out, although SE havent said anything officially about not supporting ps2 any longer, its definitely a concern. In the trailer for the new expansion it said for pc and 360 and made no mention of ps2, but we'll see what happens there still alot of space left on the hdd.

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The space on the HDD for Japan is for the expansion, likely some of the space will be used on the NA side for the new items it will adding people will have that you cant get. NA PS2 apparently doesn't have enough reason for them to continue with it. I am sure SE knows how many people actually play on the PS2 in NA, and knows how many people they are limiting. The fact they are losing sales for that choice I am also sure that they are doing it because there are a small number of those people.

I understand you want it on PS2, but you wont admit its an old console, and chances are it will not be on PS3 till it drops PS2. If they ever add PS3 or redo this games graphics that will probably happen at the same time and thats why PS2 would be dropped by then. Just admit its a 12 year old console, one of the greatest consoles ever made, but its time is up, this is thing in NA that has any relevance and is updated. It should be time that FFXI moves on and stops carrying the dead weight with it. I would love them to add PS3, it makes sense but till then you will need to accept this change, and move on.

Hello folks,

I've been looking through the thread, and like so many others, lots of good opinions and passion for the game are degenerating into personal attacks. I think there is some great back and forth going on here, but if personal attacks continue to be a problem, I will have to lock this thread. If you wish to attack a person's argument without being insulting, that's alright, but there is no need to attack the person themselves as we are all entitled to our opinions.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation in keeping this thread civil and on-topic.

I think the bulk of the problem is that Cjader1 doesn't grasp the concept that SONY will eventually stop making PS2 for the US. As they have stated several times since 2010---they will continue producing them for regions where they can reasonably do so for a profit. The only firm date they have given is thorugh 2015--whether that will continue as a global policy or restricted to specific regions remains to be seen. As it is now, NEW PS2's are only available from a short list of retailers in the US. It's just a matter of time before they are dropped from the retail shelves to make room for newer products.

That is what happens in markets.....out with the old, in with the new. Think about it. How many CRT based TV's are on the shelves compared to newer technology (LCD, LED, Plasma...)? Analog Camcorders...Computers based on CPU's older than a Core2...how many do you see NEW on the shelves? The MARKETS have dictated what is wanted, and thus dictate what is produced. If you find some of these older products in NEW condition, usually it's one model stuck in a corner, sticking around just for legacy users or they simply haven't sold out of their inventory--but the vast majority of items on the shelf is based on the newer technology for a reason---the markets demanded it.

Such is the case with future FFXI content. The MARKETS have shown that PS2 is on it's way out the door for the NA region's FFXI clients, and so SE has made the business decision to follow that market trend.

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Originally Posted by Verytus

Hello folks,

I've been looking through the thread, and like so many others, lots of good opinions and passion for the game are degenerating into personal attacks. I think there is some great back and forth going on here, but if personal attacks continue to be a problem, I will have to lock this thread. If you wish to attack a person's argument without being insulting, that's alright, but there is no need to attack the person themselves as we are all entitled to our opinions.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation in keeping this thread civil and on-topic.

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Hello Verytus, is there any insight as to what SE plans to do with ps2 as it relates to ffxi? And will SE ever put ffxi on the ps3 console?

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Originally Posted by RAIST

I think the bulk of the problem is that Cjader1 doesn't grasp the concept that SONY will eventually stop making PS2 for the US. As they have stated several times since 2010---they will continue producing them for regions where they can reasonably do so for a profit. The only firm date they have given is thorugh 2015--whether that will continue as a global policy or restricted to specific regions remains to be seen. As it is now, NEW PS2's are only available from a short list of retailers in the US. It's just a matter of time before they are dropped from the retail shelves to make room for newer products.

That is what happens in markets.....out with the old, in with the new. Think about it. How many CRT based TV's are on the shelves compared to newer technology (LCD, LED, Plasma...)? Analog Camcorders...Computers based on CPU's older than a Core2...how many do you see NEW on the shelves? The MARKETS have dictated what is wanted, and thus dictate what is produced. If you find some of these older products in NEW condition, usually it's one model stuck in a corner, sticking around just for legacy users or they simply haven't sold out of their inventory--but the vast majority of items on the shelf is based on the newer technology for a reason---the markets demanded it.

Such is the case with future FFXI content. The MARKETS have shown that PS2 is on it's way out the door for the NA region's FFXI clients, and so SE has made the business decision to follow that market trend.

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I can see your point, but why not make the transition for ffxi to exist on ps3. Or why dont SE just tell it straight to ps2 users, no one like having the rug pulled from under there feet. SE should give us an official statement on whats going on with ps2. This will allow ps2 users to know where SE stands and we can make our choice accordingly.