New SMN JA "Possession" Empowering the "Melee SMN"

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And I'm not thinking that I can do something that my job doesn't allow me to (as in, you know, main healing, or nuking, or stuff like that).

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In most cases it is not about what you can do, but what you want to do. Take PLD for example that indeed CAN main heal, but it will be rare to see them do so. BLU can also main heal... you won't see that happen often.

Almost all jobs pick one role they want, then claim everything else is "wrong". PLDs can heal, SMNs can melee. You just won't find many that will accept the truth. It is more convenient to pretend the job only has ONE way to be played. For one thing, it lets you mock others who stray from the path.

Its not that I don't mind SMNs meleeing on trash mobs, its that when others state that if you don't melee, you are worthless, that is when I have to set those people straight.

That and that melee SMN outdamages Ukon WARs.

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Finally, SMN should not need to Melee to compare to other jobs.

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I agree in the sense that the avatars should be strong enough to be respected on their own. But the very fact that SMN can add some small amount of damage by meleeing seems to prevent them from making any avatar as strong as a player. This is why some people feel they have to do it, because SE will never make the summons strong enough to compete with other jobs by themselves, just because you could add another 5% (if the avatars were actually strong) by attacking yourself. So just using that random number, they would never make a summon more than 95% of a player's strength.

It's kind of stupid, but at the same time I can see why they're so cautious about it. Pet jobs ARE hard to balance. But SE is much more cautious iwth SMN than with PUP DRG or BST. Maybe they're afraid because of the popularity of summoners in the franchise, that if they make SMN actually "good" then everyone will bandwagon all over it.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Its not that I don't mind SMNs meleeing on trash mobs, its that when others state that if you don't melee, you are worthless, that is when I have to set those people straight.

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You do less on SMN than me. That's OK, most people play a weaker SMN because they are lazy. It's you as a poster that has no value to the SMN community. You champion "lazy" because you have a WAR that no one cares about. You beg for the attention from the last person who will ever care what you do.

Your sense of worthlessness is something you brought with you. You take it with you too.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

That SMN/RDM is helping out the party a lot more than swinging a staff to keep an avatar out does.

Bolded: Hence, the reason why you need to swing a staff. Love to see you keep your avatar out outside of abyssea....oh wait.

Also: Gear, man, you really have no clue what a SMN is. Any/everyone who is a SMN can name off the gear you just put on there by name. Why can't you?

Plus: You mentioned that you solo stuff. What exactly have you soloed? Bubbly Bernie doesn't count.

Edit: 4 posts in a row! Sorry about that guys!

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OMG! I matter! Pay attention to me!

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Originally Posted by Dallas

You do less on SMN than me. That's OK, most people play a weaker SMN because they are lazy. It's you as a poster that has no value to the SMN community. You champion "lazy" because you have a WAR that no one cares about. You beg for the attention from the last person who will ever care what you do.

Your sense of worthlessness is something you brought with you. You take it with you too.

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Nobody does less on SMN than you, because quite frankly no one in their right mind would let you near anything(you personally, not melee mages in general) higher than TW--.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

You do less on SMN than me. That's OK, most people play a weaker SMN because they are lazy. It's you as a poster that has no value to the SMN community. You champion "lazy" because you have a WAR that no one cares about. You beg for the attention from the last person who will ever care what you do.

Your sense of worthlessness is something you brought with you. You take it with you too.

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How can I do less than you as a SMN when you don't even PLAY SMN? You don't make any contributions to a job you don't play. You are about as worthwhile as what you preach. Which is garbage.

That level 1 RDM is probably his real character and main job

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

That level 1 RDM is probably his real character and main job

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I would not be suprised, I honestly think he hates SMN and is trying to damage us by pretending to be one.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

In most cases it is not about what you can do, but what you want to do. Take PLD for example that indeed CAN main heal, but it will be rare to see them do so. BLU can also main heal... you won't see that happen often.

Almost all jobs pick one role they want, then claim everything else is "wrong". PLDs can heal, SMNs can melee. You just won't find many that will accept the truth. It is more convenient to pretend the job only has ONE way to be played. For one thing, it lets you mock others who stray from the path.

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PLD can main heal OUTSIDE ABYSSEA, but it's inferior to anything with a bigger native MP pool, and the other jobs restricted to Cure IV have much better options for enhancing their cures as well as recovering their larger MP pools. Considering this is really only relevant outside abyssea (GL keeping up with cures inside...), the smaller MP and very limited innate MP recovery make it laughably inefficient compared to the other Cure IV options. And BLU is limited pretty badly by recast timers, usually every time I've tried having a BLU main heal even on easy stuff like Gnawtooth it hasn't ended well.

So uh... no, try again