Abyssea: Useful jobs and Useless jobs. Your opinions on why.

BLM, BLU, BRD, WHM, NIN, WAR.

Provided all of the mage jobs actually have their spells that can proc yellow !!, and that the DD have the weaponskills for red !!. :/

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

Pet parties are useful?

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Yes, they are. Just as there's little you can't kil with mnks and whms, there's little you can't kill by throwing pets at it.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Yes, they are. Just as there's little you can't kil with mnks and whms, there's little you can't kill by throwing pets at it.

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Only thing is you proc a lot less !!s and take a fkton longer to kill.

Most useful

WAR and (NIN or SAM/NIN) for all red
BLU BRD WHM BLM for all yellow (and whm does healing)
MNK for tanking and it large range of blue covering
THF - TH ofc

Semi useful
DRK - Large amount of red and blue !!
RNG - 2 Exclusive blue and a few red !!s and wide scan
SCH and RDM - Cures/surrport and debuffs and some yellow !!
PLD - When geared and played well make holding the harder mobs for triggers incredibly easy + it can cover alot of Red and blue !!
DNC - pretty much immortal with right atmas and a WHM.

Less useful
COR - Has Wildfire which easily makes up
SMN and BST - Has Crazy solo ability exploiting ducal guard atma
PUP and DRG - iono

Honestly once u have 3 good atmas almost any DD can produce exssive amounts of dmg while some can do tons and others can do lots it really doesn't change what u can and can't do it even doesn't speed things up much considering the true bottle neck in time sink getting !! triggers.

SCH and RDM can't really cure in abyssea though...
might as well say a BRD/WHM can cure and prob can do it better ( support + cureing that is)

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Originally Posted by Rezeak

Most useful

WAR and (NIN or SAM/NIN) for all red
BLU BRD WHM BLM for all yellow (and whm does healing)
MNK for tanking and it large range of blue covering
THF - TH ofc

Semi useful
DRK - Large amount of red and blue !!
RNG - 2 Exclusive blue and a few red !!s and wide scan
SCH and RDM - Cures/surrport and debuffs and some yellow !!
PLD - When geared and played well make holding the harder mobs for triggers incredibly easy + it can cover alot of Red and blue !!
DNC - pretty much immortal with right atmas and a WHM.

Less useful
COR - Has Wildfire which easily makes up
SMN and BST - Has Crazy solo ability exploiting ducal guard atma
PUP and DRG - iono

Honestly once u have 3 good atmas almost any DD can produce exssive amounts of dmg while some can do tons and others can do lots it really doesn't change what u can and can't do it even doesn't speed things up much considering the true bottle neck in time sink getting !! triggers.

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Out of curiousity what red can rng proc?

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Originally Posted by Hoshi

Out of curiousity what red can rng proc?

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Cyclone/energy drain w/o needing a specific sub

Seraph strike(/war), raiden thrust (/war /drg or /sam), Earth crusher (/war), red lotus blade (/war), seraph blade (/war)

Rng/war can proc 7/11

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

Cyclone/energy drain w/o needing a specific sub

Seraph strike(/war), raiden thrust (/war /drg or /sam), Earth crusher (/war), red lotus blade (/war), seraph blade (/war)

Rng/war can proc 7/11

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I could be wrong, but I dont think /sam gets raiden thrust. Wiki doesnt say that sam gets it naturally.

Though wiki also says that dex = shout distance so I wouldnt take everything wiki says at face value.

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SMN and BST - Has Crazy solo ability exploiting ducal guard atma

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Still haven't soloed anything on SMN that was worth the time it took. I'm still missing RR though, so if it is as godly as people say, it could halve the time to solo things.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

I could be wrong, but I dont think /sam gets raiden thrust. Wiki doesnt say that sam gets it naturally.

Though wiki also says that dex = shout distance so I wouldnt take everything wiki says at face value.

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You're correct, I was most likely looking at the job level availability on accident for that. still works /war or /drg however