Windurst region fix.

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Originally Posted by sc4500

no offense try and see how this games worked when you started out as a 27yr old. With a real job that supports a family, yea it sucks now now days that square grew up with the rest of the people to, im 36 years old and still playing this game for no reason , but you got a fair point. When your a teenager and start this game you will see your point of views and it different , then when you see it as a older person

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you not that much older then me, and my ex started @ 25. was working at a full time job, And helped his elderly parents out. The whole "have a life" is just an exuse for impatience. You what stuff now. Its an oline game to what you can and log off. I see no reason to rush any game. I said I only played 2hr a day to make a point that You always make progress reguardless of time online. The only one stoping u from getting stuff done is urself. Just do what u can with the time you have. Plan ahead as well.

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Originally Posted by Zerich

@Rosa: Getting to level 18 in 2-weeks actually used to be pretty slow if you had that type of playtime.

On-topic: How do you break something that isn't broken?

/closethread

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not saying it was fast, saying it was progress. Progress is progress. Speed shouldn't factor if its just a game. Only impatient ppl care for the "right now" factor. Also none of said areas was broken pre gov, why fix them?

Hello I re wrote my OP in hopes to better get across what I wanted to say. Please leave the flames and insults at the door. :) Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

Hello everyone (again)
I'm rewiting my OP to fix errors places and to better type out what I'm asking. Thanks to raist I got more info then I knew my level, ranges were guesses. So my appologies on that.

What I would like, if it's possible. For SE to change the towers and underbelly baxk to their original level ranges. I was happy, (and suggested)GoV to be placed as I like having a "reason" to kill mobs. To me mindlessly killing animals doesn't seem heroic. I'm not actually new to this change. I was playing when it was added. The reason I'm dislike this change now, is I never felt effected by it and I tried to give it a chance. I tried the book burn/abby burn thing and personally dislike it. So i'm asking for THIS level change, to give me and playes like me more options at low level to level up at. I'm only asking for the windurst towers to be changed back.

Leveling out in west and east sarutabaruta can be boring a tedious as most of the low level field zones have mobs to few and far apart.

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If they made this change, they would likely feel compelled to revert the other starter areas as well--that may lead to some backlash from the players that are using those areas, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

As for hanging out in just the Saras, there is the other option of working your way towards the dunes like they always did in the past---you don't HAVE to stay there.

You also can still move into those areas neighboring Windurst as well, as there are sections of those zones that still contain the lower and intermedieary level mobs, they just may have been relocated slightly in some sections, or you may need to use stealth tactics to bypass higher level mobs in some sections to get to them. Either way, there are still mobs readily accessible in the ruins to use for getting from ~7 up through ~30....just might have to look for them is all. So, if SE were to review these areas, they may decide not to revert them....at best, they might move some mobs around, or make the 70+ ones non aggressive like they've done in other zones.

I think the "I need a viable place to level" complaint is a lot less important than the one to be made about new player retention when they wander into level 80+ mobs in a starter zone. That sort of thing tends to put people off, and with a game this old you need to hold onto all the new blood that bothers to even check the game out.

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Originally Posted by cidbahamut

I think the "I need a viable place to level" complaint is a lot less important than the one to be made about new player retention when they wander into level 80+ mobs in a starter zone. That sort of thing tends to put people off, and with a game this old you need to hold onto all the new blood that bothers to even check the game out.

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it was hat i could fit in a signle post.. or I would have rewritten that part. But i get told off for "double" posting.... well i get told off for even typing anything on here. ~.~

Honestly you guys really fail to see how hurtful you guys are in reality. If i had the tools my typing would be tons better. I don't. And i get hate for that, that is pretty effed up. And thats what I've been trying to get across.

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Originally Posted by Rosina

it was hat i could fit in a signle post.. or I would have rewritten that part. But i get told off for "double" posting.... well i get told off for even typing anything on here. ~.~

Honestly you guys really fail to see how hurtful you guys are in reality. If i had the tools my typing would be tons better. I don't. And i get hate for that, that is pretty effed up. And thats what I've been trying to get across.

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What in the world are you talking about and why did you quote me?

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Originally Posted by Rosina

it was hat i could fit in a signle post.. or I would have rewritten that part. But i get told off for "double" posting.... well i get told off for even typing anything on here. ~.~

Honestly you guys really fail to see how hurtful you guys are in reality. If i had the tools my typing would be tons better. I don't. And i get hate for that, that is pretty effed up. And thats what I've been trying to get across.

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Just curious do you type with keyboard or the controller? ^^ Not bashing or anything just wanting to know, 'cause some people don't know you can use a USB keyboard on the PS3 to type with. :) Might make easier to type with. ^^

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Originally Posted by cidbahamut

I think the "I need a viable place to level" complaint is a lot less important than the one to be made about new player retention when they wander into level 80+ mobs in a starter zone. That sort of thing tends to put people off, and with a game this old you need to hold onto all the new blood that bothers to even check the game out.

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True, but you also need to keep in mind that these higher mobs are deeper into these zones. Particularly in the zones in question here, you would not hit these mobs until you were done with level 14-18 mobs (some possible lower/higher in other zones). You don't just zone in and have a level 89 Scorpion biting your head off--you have to work your way past several camps representing the more normal level monsters that have always been in those zones first.

Also, at some point, you would be breaking off to do subjob quest--which means breaking off towards Mauhra or Dunes, then eventually Jueno for Chocobo, Rank, Khazaam, Airship, etc. The game has always been setup with that natural progression to hit harder level mobs as you go into zones further away from the starter nations, working your way towards Jueno....and yes, it is just that, a natural progression of sorts. Because of this pattern, this became the "norm" for people to follow: level up to around 10 closer to home, upgrade gears, and venture out into the world.

In other words, there are established paths that players have always taken. If they were to follow those paths, they may likely never go past that cracked wall or hop up the geyser to the upper level of Dangruf and continue up into the 80+ mobs there unless they were wandering around aimlessly out of curiousity (which is always dangerous), or doing a quest/mission that requires them to go there (in which case, they would have received advance notice of the threat had they researched things, and should have come prepared)--otherwise they should only be going there intending to fight those higher level mobs. It's all out there for anyone to review, and if they have no means to view that info there are plenty of people in game that could give them a heads up if they asked in LS or something (unless, there is somehow an LS full of people with no knowledge of the game or sites with the information).

Thus, the people who are running into issues with these mobs are more likely to be ones that either are unaware of what they are getting into because they didn't read up on anything and are just exploring without a clue (and if they don't learn the first time they make that mistake....well, that becomes more a personal problem), or are fully aware of the threat but are still choosing to go there anyway without taking proper precautions, even though a safer, reasonable path has been laid out before them (again, this is more a personal problem---a problem of personal choice).

That is quite a lot of text for what amounts to "/handwave".

At the end of the day there is a very simple reality:
New players are going to encounter these mobs, have absolutely no chance at all and that's going to discourage people from continuing to play.