Can we have an update on the situation.

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Originally Posted by Dale

Oh I'm sure they could find better things to do with their time. Like get in touch with their bosses and then update us on what's going on. I'd much rather see something like that in my email than these threats to bann me from the game for suggesting some of these posters may want to consider therapy because of their obvious anger managmenet issues lol

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It is not the job of an entry level employee to badger the CEO of the company for updates. They probably wouldn't get any answers anyway, and would still have to monitor the forums if they wanted to keep their jobs.

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Originally Posted by hiko

and you miss his point that people who work on this forum are not the people from the dev team, are probably not even in japan (for the us/eu forums) and dont know better than you when server will be up

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Yes i'm sure the people who head up these forums have no clue about anything...in fact they probably dont' even work for square, are based on Mars, and have no contact what so ever with planet earth. So who are we to dare ask them for an update about this game. We are so stupid for thinking they may know something we don't.

I totally agree, and we are being so unreasonable!

a minor amount of education and common sense, as well as compassion for ones fellow man would have prevented the invention of this thread

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Originally Posted by Gadanae

Ok since SE has so many employees in so many places..... here's a hint. Start working on creating mirror servers in the U.S. RIGHT NOW... or wherever you'd like to put them, and get em up pronto. Get your employees OFF monitoring this forum and put em to work getting your service back up so you can actually EARN the money you charged us for March instead of trying to appease us with giving us a free month like we're monkeys looking for a banana. And I work in IT so DON'T tell me it will take a long time to do this because it wll not. Longest portion of time would be to actually get the equipment and get it housed somewhere that has reliable electricity, and that doesn't even take long. And spend less time monitoring these forums and sending threatening emails to people that are obviously disgruntled with your service and actually DO something about it. As far as I can see, they are not doing anything about it at the moment. Maybe I would change my view of the situation IF THEY UPDATED US ON THE PROGRESS OF GETTING THE SERVERS BACK ONLINE, but it doesn't seem that they care enough about doing that, but they sure as hell care about banning us from these forums in any way they can.

Congratulations SE, whe you started open forums for your members, you opened up a can or worms for yourself. Now you get to hear the complaints and gripes from all the peole who have played this game for years that are sick of the way SE does some things. I bet I get banned for saying that. Lord knows they will ban people left and right and destroy their already shrinking player base (especially after this) rather then actually address and take care of the problem.

THIS is the point i'm trying to make. I hope everyone gets it now, and no one is confused.

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Just calm down. If the "SE employees" don't have anyone to rule over, then they'll get bored of violating The Constitution of The Interweb on their own forum. Then they'll drive down the Information Superhighway and turn the servers back on so that they can go back to their real job of shoveling FFXI's into the intertubes and down to your IP address so you can play the game.

Oh, and by the way...SE employs over 1800 people. I serously doubt that all 1800 of them are monitoring this forum.

Everything needed to actively support this game takes a SERIOUS power draw. SE announced they were debating how to respond, and ultimately decided on complying with requests to conserve power. They JUST got to the point where they are able to level off the supply vs demand for power over ther for roughly 22 hours out of the day with the implementation of the rolling blackout scheme.

I would hazard a guess that SE just doesn't feel confident to turn everything back on and risk having issues due to recurring brownouts/blackouts for not only their equipment and data integrity, but also for the stability of internet communication in the region that are also affected by power grid issues.

As mentioned before. Hosting/monitoring this forum could be done anywhere outside of Japan. But, the GAME itself (as of the last time it was up) IS run out of JAPAN, and until the situation improves or they manage to host it elswhere they likely will have a need to keep it down for fear of suffering catastrohpic losses themselves. I understand that the majority of you here have never had to recover a massive critical database from dirty shutdown due to hardware failures. I have...and can be a long, drawn out process that can have spotty results at times. ISINTEG and such are nice tools, but they are not without their faults. Nothing beats a real-time fail-over solution, but the scope of this project is just too large to allow such a backup off-site in another region. It would have to be dopne locally, or we would be paying a heck of a lot more than $13 USD a month (which, by the way is being waved for the next billing cycle, in case you forgot).

/endrant

Raist

Edit: Oh, and by the way... it took them roughly 12 hours jsut to move the POL server recently. So yes, it would take a long time to move all this data. It took like 14 hours just to replicate and test failover support for an exchange server's data from SC to NC on a project I worked on a while back...and it was only roughly 20 GB. We are talking about TERABYTES here.

Raist

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Originally Posted by Nattack

a minor amount of education and common sense, as well as compassion for ones fellow man would have prevented the invention of this thread

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And let me guess Nattack, you have all these qualities don't you. It just sucks we can't all be as educated, smart, and compassionate as you :)

holy addiction, americans get so flustered when they cant waste their weekends on the game!

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And let me guess Nattack, you have all these qualities don't you. It just sucks we can't all be as educated, smart, and compassionate as you :)

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Well he seems to have enough common sense not to assume that the moderators of this form have the capability, resources, or authority to create a new FFXI server or make national decisions for Japan

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Oh, and by the way...SE employs over 1800 people. I serously doubt that all 1800 of them are monitoring this forum.

Everything needed to actively support this game takes a SERIOUS power draw. SE announced they were debating how to respond, and ultimately decided on complying with requests to conserve power. They JUST got to the point where they are able to level off the supply vs demand for power over ther for roughly 22 hours out of the day with the implementation of the rolling blackout scheme.

I would hazard a guess that SE just doesn't feel confident to turn everything back on and risk having issues due to recurring brownouts/blackouts for not only their equipment and data integrity, but also for the stability of internet communication in the region that are also affected by power grid issues.

As mentioned before. Hosting/monitoring this forum could be done anywhere outside of Japan. But, the GAME itself (as of the last time it was up) IS run out of JAPAN, and until the situation improves or they manage to host it elswhere they likely will have a need to keep it down for fear of suffering catastrohpic losses themselves. I understand that the majority of you here have never had to recover a massive critical database from dirty shutdown due to hardware failures. I have...and can be a long, drawn out process that can have spotty results at times. ISINTEG and such are nice tools, but they are not without their faults. Nothing beats a real-time fail-over solution, but the scope of this project is just too large to allow such a backup off-site in another region. It would have to be dopne locally, or we would be paying a heck of a lot more than $13 USD a month (which, by the way is being waved for the next billing cycle, in case you forgot).

/endrant

Raist

Raist

Raist

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Lol, you need to relax Raist. You sound like a good guy - but you are totally off the reservation on this one. I understand what you are saying, but the point being made is of a much larger one.

If such an intense effort is being made to regulate these forums, it would be nice to see at least maybe a fraction of this same kind of effort being made to keep their customers updated to the current situation about the servers. That's all we are asking for. Let's see some emails letting me know how the servers are doing instead of emails threatening to bann me cause i wasn't mother teresa on a forum lol

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Originally Posted by Selzak

Well he seems to have enough common sense not to assume that the moderators of this form have the capability, resources, or authority to create a new FFXI server or make national decisions for Japan

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yes Selzak and i cleary said i expected the moderators of this forum to create a new FFXI server and make national descisions for Japan.

Oh wait...no i didn't