HNMs and the future of FFXI

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Originally Posted by Natenn

Abyssea & VWNM are pacifyers for 90% of whats left of the "community". The not adding world spawn HNM 21-24hr/2-3 day/3-5 day spawns are whats killing this game off mainly. Now that a noob can go from Lv1 to 99 in 3 days or less is crap too, i remember when SE made a huge deal over 500k ppl playing FFXI. This was in the glory days, back b4 RMT ruined gil HNM like Sim/Roc/KA/CC/Serket etc. My best memorys were back in the days starting in a tiny HNMLS logging at Bune or Sim b4 maint, or camping NQ Behe and hope HQ didn't pop when hides were 2M, growing over time into one of the powerhouse LSs killing Nidhogg/Cerb/Khim same day back when titles meant something. Now its like: full perle WARs with 85 Ukon Prov watcher = disgusting. The fact that the HNMs had a long repop kept crappy players from getting goods w/o trying. I loved outclaiming new LSs and every time they would cry bot, with 0 evidence. Casuals want everything handed to them. Nothing was wrong with 21-24 HNM with the exception that ppl could "bot".

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Your delusions of the game being any different in terms of who was good and bad is laughable at best and for all the huffing and puffing people like yourself make about "bad players having amazing gear" many HNMLS had no problem selling this gear to players for 30m/abjuration all while patting themselves on the back for getting the claim (legit or not) and making a mint off it. Where was this sense of "earning" gear when you were selling the resident gilbuyers/morons/desperate EBody, NHead, AHands, BB items or Ridills? Oh right, everyone was silent on the topic while raking in that gil for the LS cuts.

You don't really expect to get away with this statement:

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The fact that the HNMs had a long repop kept crappy players from getting goods w/o trying.

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do you? I'm laughing my ass off right now. Change the 'trying' to 'buying' and you're spot on.

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Seriously why you we still arguing lol

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Originally Posted by Habu

Seriously why you we still arguing lol

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Why did you make this thread? You don't have to tell me this argument is pointless because I know. Doesn't mean I don't derive enjoyment poking holes in faulty reasoning and clouded visions of the past.

You have your masochistic pursuits for more HNMs and I have my compulsion to post on internet forums. Seems like we both need an intervention.

Oh kind of goes against you're argument of wasting time and being productive. Poking holes in something eh? Yeah there's a better way to do that too.

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Originally Posted by Habu

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called the troll in the thread earlier.

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No you're just mad you don't fit into the elitest group that are HNMers. Stop having a life and join the darkside.

Holy crap... how is this still going on, HNMs were bad, they didnt award better players they awarded cheaters and those rich enough to indulge them, if you want a new HNM system considering ya'll miss the drama and competition the drops have to be worthwhile enough to get people to actually camp them.

You want HNMs back go petition SE for a vanilla server instead, oh wait a second NA launch 11 wasn't even truly vanilla considering we jumped in with RoZ so back to 50 cap days! thats where the true pros were. have fun claim botting roc, lumberjack and simurgh. I for one want no part in your lunacy, or masochism or is this sado-masichism since they both love the hurt and enjoy the hurting?

Also im 28 years old soon to be 29, i've given enough of my life to this game honestly im glad its casual friendly now, i used to play for hours on end every day and had absolutely no life, i do other things now, i have bigger responsibilities with my job ect. i dont have time for this retarded kind of BS nor do i care for it even if i did. there was nothing elite about buying/using the linkshell bot to beat out a claim even if you didn't personally use a bot you're delusional if you think no one in your LS did.

tl;dr Botting = Elite, Drama = Fun, Tears = Tasty, I like cutting my self for drama.

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Originally Posted by Nala

Holy crap... how is this still going on [..]

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Because people like you keep going, knowing that they'll never convince the other side no matter what they say, but still somehow think it's good to throw fuel on the fire. Every single reply in this thread was 100% predictable. This thread has been following the same formula as every other thinly veiled "casual" vs "hardcore" debate ever on these forums. No matter, a mod will delete the last few pages as they were nothing but insults and this thread, also like every other of this kind, will find a slow and quiet death. Which is probably for the better.

HNMs were the best, anyone who says otherwise wouldn't be mad if they were the ones claiming. That was the hook of the hook of the game gor most, like i said at its highpoint XI had 500k+ players, now its dwindled down to 25k? 30k? a mere fraction of what it was. All that we have left are the dedicated hardcore FF fans and the casual base. Throw us some new sets of HQ/NQ HNM that spawned like SW/DI or at least in a bigger area then previous kings where botters could cramp up and all act on it. Like if it was just 1 zone as big ss Rolanberry, make it pop ANYWHERE in that zone and make it high enough lvl where you would need several ppl there just to hold it.

PS HNM >all