Same-Sex Marriages

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Originally Posted by Yawn

Squre-Enix ninja-added gay marriage in over a year ago with their automated marriage system. They couldn't just come out and say they added it due to political and social pressure, so they stuck it in and just let people figure it out for themselves. Here is a basic rundown on how to marry someone of the same sex:

Step 1: Get a friend of the opposite gender (your best man or maid of honor or witness or whatever) to buy two rings.
Step 2: Use an HQ earth crystal to sign the rings.
Step 3: Exchange the rings (whether through a ceremony or juat right there at the NPC who acts as a justice of the peace.)
Step 4: Buy your friend a ring.
Step 5: Talk to the NPC one at a time while partied with your friend to get your marriage certificates. Marriage certificates aren't actually signed. They're just furnishings. congratulations! You're married.

As for there being no gay NPCs in FFXI, I direct you to WotG's storyline and numerous ToAU quests; most notably Three Men in the (and the?) Closet. There is a gay Tarutaru in the Windurst Woods Clothcraft guild, as well as the Norg NPC who accepts the avatar items for your summoner ring. Also, the male mithra in the Windurst Waters (S) storyline is openly bisexual.

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And this is exactly what I was talking about earlier, but was ignored when you decided to just apply the 'homophobe' label to me. Hypocritical much?

Additionally, thanks for the info about the certificates being unsigned. With that information, all it would take would be a little manipulation of the system with a couple of opposite-gender Jeuno mules or friends to have EVERYTHING a hetero 'marriage' in-game would have.

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Originally Posted by Siros

U wanna be gay,fine w/e but plz keep it outta the game....

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I don't think anyone "wants" to be gay. It's less of a choice and more of the way you are born. I don't think anyone would choose to be the focus of such hate.
All in all it's less of a gay thing in game and more of a same sex character marriage thing. I know lots of Mithra that are men and it would be nice if they wanted to marry their female GF or wife in game.

I just have to add that I chuckled when I saw one of the first posts say people would be in an uproar if you could get married to the same sex in a game. This is old. Fable, one of the most popular RPG franchises right now, has had gay marriage and gay sexual partners for a long time. Nobody complained. You don't see gay gamers playing a game where there is a heterosexual marriage. It'd be nice to see the day where more straight gamers felt the same about a gay marriage in the future. We'll get there... in time.

The amount of homophobia in this thread is staggering.

I don't care if they add same-sex marriage into the game. It won't affect my game play.

im surprised this got to page 3 before getting assinine. I'd personally like to see this thread closed for that very reason.

P.S.: I'm gay, I play a male Hume and my boyfriend plays a mithra. So, no, this isn't me being "insensitive." I just don't really need to read all this hate in a game forum.

@Xilk: marriage was originally created to serve the purpose of increasing personal family wealth and making countries not go to war with eachother. Then it became the bill of sale of a woman. Now it's a religious thing, which is actually VERY recent. so don't talk about things you don't know about.

Also, samurai had homosexuality and it was very okay. Greeks had it, Romans had it, American Indians had it, and Hindu's had it pre-Gandhi. sooooo stfu. :)

Also, one in every 10 people is gay, worldwide, which is true. we are not a minority group. we are here. we've BEEN here. we've helped in YOUR wars, YOUR economy, and YOUR struggles. we have hidden because YOU persecuted us. YOU can now sit down and take a back seat as we ask for our dues.

Being gay isn't a sexual deviance. Neither is it "shoving it in anyone's face." this is a suggestion forum, this is the suggestion. It's actually very standard a request. He's not converting people. He's not preaching on the rooftops. But many straight couples in FFXI preach about their husbands and wives etc etc. How is that different from me talking about my boyfriend?

you really need a lesson in being less of a histrionic pissant.

omg thank you Sagian, you're my new best friend.

@Ilax we only have gay parades because we DON'T have the rights of a straight person, i.e. we cannot get health insurance, make family decisions together, adopt children easily (in some states its next to impossible), get a tax break, etc. If you gave gay people that, and didn't call it marriage, we would be happy I think. If you said, "go buy property together and do your taxes together and everything else marriage entails. P.S. we're calling this Purple Hippopotamus Joint Custody Bill of Sale" we'd still be like OMG THANK YOU and probably wouldn't have parades anymore. :P

just my personal belief.