Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

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Originally Posted by Nala

im not really a summoner myself but this is one idea ive always had on the skilling up issues, in addition to gaining skill from pacts and the action of summoning why cant SMN gain magic skill while thier pet melees? i could be wrong but that might help a bit perhaps? sorry if the idea itself isn't as appealing to actual smn's >.<

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This makes a lot of sense to me. Avatar melee attacks and BPs should give skill ups.

Personally I got to 90 from 85 and gained about 3 skill. Then it was simply a few skill now and then over the months and about 3-4 months later it was capped through normal use. It just sucks that those 3-4 months you are "weakened" due to skill only counting over cap, not total count.

My staff is still uncapped though, and I usually only get some 0.5 per night I do some engaging. Think I'm like 7 off cap.

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Originally Posted by Orson

This makes a lot of sense to me. Avatar melee attacks and BPs should give skill ups.

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Avatar BP's give skill up as well now. I would like to see melee attack give skill ups but because its called "summoning magic" I don't think they will go that way with it....would be nice.....

I can't find update notes to the update for smn when we got skill per BP can anybody find?

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

Personally I got to 90 from 85 and gained about 3 skill. Then it was simply a few skill now and then over the months and about 3-4 months later it was capped through normal use. It just sucks that those 3-4 months you are "weakened" due to skill only counting over cap, not total count.

My staff is still uncapped though, and I usually only get some 0.5 per night I do some engaging. Think I'm like 7 off cap.

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How did you level from 85-90? If you don't mind me asking, because I capped it fairly easily took about a month of my usual play time(2-3hrs a night) to cap my skills 85-90.

Don't remember the details. Quick running out to new Abyssea zones I think, killing pots in Grauberg for uhm, I actually don't know why we did it, but that is what we did. Got to about 88 before I went to bed I think. Then something similar the following day up to 90. Basically just melee the pots with my SMN and staff while clicking off Mountain Busters I believe.

Then the skills came in now and then during +2 upgrade item farming and such. But you know the drill. Trigger first, then kill fast, and during kill fast you get off like 3 BPs at most.

One could assume my skill would go slightly faster if I spammed wards, but I tend to not use them when not needed.

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Avatar BP's give skill up as well now. I would like to see melee attack give skill ups but because its called "summoning magic" I don't think they will go that way with it....would be nice.....

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I think it would make sense if you got sporadic skill ups while under avatar's favor though. Since you constantly use your skill to enhance the aura effect. Best part would be parking outside Jeuno and getting free skillups all night.

Hmmm. Same schooling, different year. SMN was designed for groups. Perhaps you guys shouldn't focus on skillups and let SE know why no one wants you in a group...

The moment you are invited is the moment you start getting skillups.

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Originally Posted by Malamasala

Personally I got to 90 from 85 and gained about 3 skill. Then it was simply a few skill now and then over the months and about 3-4 months later it was capped through normal use. It just sucks that those 3-4 months you are "weakened" due to skill only counting over cap, not total count.

My staff is still uncapped though, and I usually only get some 0.5 per night I do some engaging. Think I'm like 7 off cap.

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My SMN magic skill took about a week to do, it is amazing how much skillups you gain from soloing T mobs and NMs.

My staff skill is capped also, mainly because of WAR though. Blunt procs really help with the skillups. Can get about 1~2 skill just from finding blunt and red at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Hmmm. Same schooling, different year. SMN was designed for groups. Perhaps you guys shouldn't focus on skillups and let SE know why no one wants you in a group...

The moment you are invited is the moment you start getting skillups.

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Let us know when you get invited to one.

Don't involve yourself with SMN business, K. SMN skill and buffs are not related to war or DG.

Guys please we finally have a thread SE is definitely listening to. Try not to derail with pointless bickering. For the sake of Summoners everywhere, take it somewhere else.