PLEASE Tell me "Grounds of Valor" is what I think it is!! (FFXI Gyms of Vana'diel??)

Again, having more than one ??? for NMs, moving timed spawns NMs KIs into gold chests, adding +2 items to visions areas, all those CLEARLY show our feedback and suggestions are being taken seriously.

Heck, even them adding new mobs outside of abyssea for those who wanted to exp outside got what they wanted (kinda, they have updated it with OUR FEEDBACK to try and correct the ssiue)

I dont know why you need to be bluntly told to have proof.

I don't HAVE to be told ^^ I said it would be really cool to hear the Devs say "Thanks to player feedback, we've decided to implement this functionality". That's all I'm saying.

There's no downside to letting your players know their ideas and opinions were in fact used during the planning of content. None at all. But the upsides are tremendous and long lasting in the minds of that very community knowing their thoughts made a difference.

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Originally Posted by Shoko

Do you really need validation for your Gyms idea? You'd have to be an idiot to not see some small aspect of your idea was added to Grounds of Valor, but you shouldn't act like your idea made this come to fruition totally (as they had already state a loooong time ago they wanted to extend Fields of Valor in some manner). Just be happy something similar came along and move on.
The cool people don't need to have validation to feel special that they made a difference in something.

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Originally Posted by kingfury

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Yeah, but the rest of us can tell when our suggestions have been heeded because they are implemented. We don't need more than that. Why do you?

Ok, you asked, you dont need to respond to every single post thats made, you asked what you want it, leave it alone at that. The thread isnt going to stop if you respond to every post.

Theres no need to thank the player base for every idea that becomes part of the game, no matter how big or small-- these forums were for the most part created for the very reason of bouncing ideas back and forth to bring about a more enjoyable experience. However, at the end of the day, once the devs incorporate the idea, it becomes part of their intellectual property, and they reserve no right to have to point out any one person that gave fruition to the idea in game.

Personally, you were acknowledged once already for the idea itself. That in and of itself should be a big deal to you if you're looking for recognition.

Edit: Ironically, the very next post below the post you just linked me to also explains what I just said.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Ok, you asked, you dont need to respond to every single post thats made, you asked what you want it, leave it alone at that. The thread isnt going to stop if you respond to every post.

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lol ^^ I don't mind conversation based on my comments at all, it's the flame posts I'd like to see "stop".

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Originally Posted by kingfury

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That our ideas truly helped. If you're passionate about seeing change in this game, then you won't stop posting suggestions. However, rewarding your community of players that spend time and effort both playing and giving feedback with the knowledge that their voice is truly being heard at the creation table is tremendously powerful, and it will keep the player's moral super high.

Kimble if you post a suggestion that you feel very strongly about, it will be important to you to know if your feedback counted. Surely you agree with this.

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King seriously how can you post something like this not seeing your seeking validation of some kind so that it can be seen by everyone. It'd be safe to say from the responses that it appears that's what your doing while trying to hide it behind "others would really want to know". Just be honest and say you want to know if your idea had any input and stop being passive aggressive. Your getting all this criticism because you can't seem to handle someone pointing out what it appears you are doing whether these are your intentions of not.

99% of the horrible ideas on this forum are ignored, yours was one of the verv very few that was responded to. Why the need for more?

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I'll let your post be the last that I respond to in regards to this point for fear that I'm gonna keep having to repeat myself endlessly ^^;

Check the OP if you missed my concluding response to the thread topic. I've expressed my gratitude and happiness for the fact that the functionality has finally made it to the game. That part of this thread was over with when I played GoV and posted my findings within the Op. I'm more than satisfied that the enhanced skill ups made it to the game, and I'm not asking for any more than that in regards to my Gyms thread.

The second half of this thread has made it to where it is based on all the positive and negative ASSUMPTIONS that have been laced throughout the life of this thread. I'm not asking for ANY PERSONAL recognition whatsoever, and this will be the last time I'll say it. I've never asked for such, and my request for a clearer understanding of the feedback -> Dev Teams content planning process doesn't ask for such either.

If you don't agree that the Devs should share such things with us, that's fine. I'm only making a suggestion after all. I've made my points like Kimble stated, so if you need any clarification at this point, it's all here. Thanks and /take care

oh king its hardest to look at ourselves in the mirror senior.