Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

Alternate idea, put the XP penalty for level difference back

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It's still there.

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

invite me to your party if you hate leachers. I usually at least /thf. I routinely SATA anyone who is AFK more than 5 minutes, even if they have the leader's permission. If you aren't contributing you have no business there.

Alternate idea, put the XP penalty for level difference back, but with a permitted 15 level gap. An alliance can afford to carry 1 person then who's a 30-ish keywhore, but not several leaches without hurting XP in a major way. Noone in their right mind would sync to say 60 in Abyssea, unless you were brewing even the NQ mobs.

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I say this should be the new trend to every leecher and afk person theif's im counting on you!!!!

Gawd...

I love reading threads like this. It makes me giggle!

AAAANYWAY, I actually agree with the group that wants to increase the minimum level to enter Abyssea. Why? Well mostly personal interest. I won't say that I haven't leeched a job in Abyssea because if I did I'd be lying but I'll have you know that jobs I did leech were all ready of cap skill and decent gear because of the jobs I leveled before them...this is something most leechers don't do. I also won't say that it isn't nice getting from 30-90 in a matter of days but that isn't my point. I personally miss the challenge in the game. You know back in the good old days when it took FOREVER to get to 75 successfully..ESPECIALLY during the ToAU Golden Age when BLMs and WHMs were nearly dubbed obsolete in EXP parties thanks goddamn RDM obsessed idiots and the introduction of magic reflecting monsters. Back then when you hit 75 it was an accoplishment on a lot of jobs beacuse people put so much work into getting there.

For those of your arguing to keep the cap down, I can see your point but from my view it just makes you look really really lazy like you just don't want to "play the game" the way it's MEANT to be played...with hard work, strategy and planning. Forgive me if I'm wrong but it just seems like you're arguing to be lazy. While you're at it you should hire someone to afk in Abyssea for you. Pfft. On the two jobs I've leeched I never afk'd in abyssea. I always stayed active getting all the chests opened and doing my part as a member of the alliance. When I was high enough level to hit the mob I'd put on what gear I had and start smackin' it around. Easy peasy.

On a more serious note the only leechers I have an extreme loathing for are the ones who level a job without the ability to skill it properly before hand. By this I mostly mean people who abyssea leech on the following jobs: BRD, SMN, BLU, and NIN. These four jobs have job specific magical skills that can only be skilled up on that job. It's sad but i've personally heard someone say this back when people East Ron. (S) burn'd...they said that "Bard can be naked and still do it's job with or without skill". Well I'm sorry you're wrong. Bard requires three skills to effectively land their debuffs and make their buffs worthwhile especially now when they are required to proc yellow on NMs for seals the threnody has to LAND on it. If you burned your bard and started using it right away on NMs you will never land a single spell on anything even if you tried and frankly you'd only be useful for casting ballad and paeon.

*endobligatoryBRDrant*

Same goes for BLU SMN and NIN...for SMNs your BPs are gonna suck, for NIN your enfeebs won't land, and for BLUs you'll be missing most of your spells and you won't have enough skill to learn new ones quickly. Sure you can attempt to skill up while leeching but with people sprinting from 30-90 what time is there to get from 0-350+ skill? Point is...Abyssea burning has brought out some really crappy players with crappy skill and excellent gear which makes the really good players with good skill and decent gear look bad. Personally I would prefer the Good skill over the excellent gear if you get what I mean and having both is just a bonus.

With Love from the Mimsicle One <3

PS: All arguements aside, everyone's opinion here is valid. Leveling fast in abyssea is nice but leveling normally is more exciting. Just if you plan to level something, do take care and try to pace it so you can be as good as you can be at level 90.

PPS: Also note that some people are burning drops as a trophy piece to have all 20 jobs at level 90 to show off. Those of you that do this (I'm not saying anyone here is) are a bit late on thats seeing as there are many respected players who've had 20/20 jobs 75 before abyssea was added and therefore earned such a trophy with a lot more blood sweat and virtual tears than you did. You're nothing special.

PPPS: Let's all get along and have some banana cake, okay! ^^

Here's an idea don't force your Stockholm's syndrome on other people.

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Originally Posted by Reimii

lots of nonsense

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So in the end you're just a hypocrite? Let me play how I want to play, or start paying for my monthly subscription, yeh?

I like that strategy Glamdring.. Keep up the good work.

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just gonna leave this here

minimum lvl 70+ please, thanks

ugh, do we really need this many threads on this? seriously people????

And no, I dont think SE should do anything about this situation, if you want change things then start encouraging the no-leach policy on your own, make parties and dont acept leaches, kick people if they are AFK for to long, make them wear silly hats for all I care...

Theres nothing wrong with the game (in that respect).

Its like back in the day you loved so much, the Grind Ages, it was very bad recived to see someone with a gimped subjob, it was the people that rejected those who showed on a party with gimped subs (or gear), but the game allows it, you were not complaining and suggesting SE "duurr SE make so people cant put a sub if its gimped durr durr hurr" I mean, it was something that the comunity punished all by themselves, no need to SE to do something about it.

If you hate HLN (high level noobs) then dont accept them in your parties, be a jerk, but dont suggest SE to be jerks too.

Your signature is pure awesome.