Nerfing Ukko/Vsmite so lazy players can be more useful?

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Originally Posted by Prothscar

I hope you're trolling. If not you are incredibly ignorant.

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1\2 and 1\2 but pay tell how am i ignorant

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Originally Posted by Rohelius

Yeah I Hear a lot of "im gonna do lvl75 damage" which is retarded to even think imo.
If your warrior is gonna suck that bad after the nerf then look at your gear and stop crying over having to put some real thought into your gear selection from now on, but I guess u can't blame a warrior for whinning about having to actually think about those kinda Things lol

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Funny thing is your gear doesn't look too good yourself.

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Originally Posted by Brolic

1\2 and 1\2 but pay tell how am i ignorant

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DRG I'll give you being the most MP efficient healer by proxy, overall efficient? No.

DRK being a tank is lol reasoning. In this day and age when any DD job, including WAR, can tank most NMs effectively, using this as a basis for argument is ridiculous. Would even put WAR at slightly ahead of DRK simply due to Retaliation, as DRK's only tanking tools are... Drain and Dread Spikes. Stop the presses, serious shit up in here.

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Originally Posted by macross

Give me a break, relics are very easy to make too. Take your guild and each person go dynamis and farm you coins and you'll be done in a week too. There's absolutely no reason relics should hit for 5k dmg just cause they are relics.

What they should have done is made them gimp at 80, less gimp at 85, even less gimp at 90, then how they are at 95. Then you can't complain as much.

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I'm not sure what your trying to prove, but if I come to bismark, will you farm dynamis every day, and give me all of your coins? Just for one week. that's all I need.

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Originally Posted by Prothscar

DRG I'll give you being the most MP efficient healer by proxy, overall efficient? No.

DRK being a tank is lol reasoning. In this day and age when any DD job, including WAR, can tank most NMs effectively, using this as a basis for argument is ridiculous. Would even put WAR at slightly ahead of DRK simply due to Retaliation, as DRK's only tanking tools are... Drain and Dread Spikes. Stop the presses, serious shit up in here.

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they have catastrophe

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Originally Posted by Brolic

they have catastrophe

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You sir are ignorant. I can tank on any job but saying IT IS A TANK is retarded. A warrior can have a mage as healing so now it's more efficient as a tank and more raw damage. OH WAIT YOU MEAN SOLO. This damn low man solo shit is getting on my nerves when we are moving into more alliance fighting for end game not 1 man armies.

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Originally Posted by Chriscoffey

You sir are ignorant. I can tank on any job but saying IT IS A TANK is retarded. A warrior can have a mage as healing so now it's more efficient as a tank and more raw damage. OH WAIT YOU MEAN SOLO. This damn low man solo shit is getting on my nerves when we are moving into more alliance fighting for end game not 1 man armies.

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I think you guys are missing the point.

There's two possible points: Trolling or Stupid. Pick your poison.

Macross will you stop with the emp vs relic bullshit, take that crap to that other thread...I dislike seeing your relic weapon hating electric slide pass my computer screen.

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Originally Posted by Prothscar

There's two possible points: Trolling or Stupid. Pick your poison.

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Well, I think he's basically saying that wars used to just deliver damage, and darks used to have other purposes like tanking with cata. SO really, war is functioning correctly on the DD front. The problem is that WHMs are OP healers, and Keeping hate by spamming magic / abilities doesn't work anymore. So war is actually the only thing not in need of adjustment in the equation.