Comet/Meteor

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Native Enfeebling skill of what, D?

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B+ actually, since you should always be in either Light or Dark Arts.

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Natively, SCHs have D in like...everything. Only when they use a job ability does it get a boost. So natively, it's D.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

B+ actually, since you should always be in either Light or Dark Arts.

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With help, you got B+ skill.

Native, you got D skill. Lets hope you don't get dispeled.

Raxiaz beat me to it though.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

With help, you got B+ skill.

Native, you got D skill. Lets hope you don't get dispeled.

Raxiaz beat me to it though.

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Light/Dark Arts can't be dispelled.

Also Saying Native skill of D is a meaningless statistic. It's like saying a naked 90war/sam has native ~45 attack (STR/2). (EDIT: Just so we're clear, a WAR with 0 H2H skill)

No one cares what a WARs attack is without a weapon.

Also ALL of SCHs native skills are D without any arts, so what? We didn't seem to have any trouble 'taking over WHMs and BLMs roles' with it back at lvl75.

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Actually, I didn't know about the non-dispel thingy. But point still stands, you need to have something in effect in order for you to actually have a B+ on anything.

Also, WAR has native H2H skill. Just thought you would like to know. I believe it is a D rating also.

Besides, B+ enfeebling kindof sucks, specially when you don't have the gear to back it up on anything important.

Magic Accuracy ring a bell?

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Actually, I didn't know about the non-dispel thingy.

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Seems to be a theme.

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But point still stands, you need to have something in effect in order for you to actually have a B+ on anything.

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Irrelevant.

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Also, WAR has native H2H skill. Just thought you would like to know. I believe it is a D rating also.

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Yeah I considered changing it to DRG/SAM or DRK/SAM or something, but figured i'd leave it be. Point still stands that weaponless attack value is a meaningless statistic.

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Besides, B+ enfeebling kindof sucks, specially when you don't have the gear to back it up on anything important.

Magic Accuracy ring a bell?

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What, Like these?:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Savant's_Pants_Plus_2
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Savant's_Gown_Plus_2
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Avesta_Bangles

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I'm sure they are going to be nice spells but I'd like to know if we can get the same epic range Meteor is known to have, roughly 30 yalms ?

I'm beginning to wonder if Summoner is getting Comet/Meteor at the rate of this thread...

Oh no wait, it's Black Mage. What is Summoner doing here again...?

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Originally Posted by Vicious

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In case you missed it, there was already a 100+ page thread about melee SMN.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...t=lack+utility

I know you're not going to read it, but all of the dudes you are arguing with have already gone 10 rounds on this issue so they have short fuses.

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Originally Posted by Zyeriis

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Wasn't your question on the first post answered? Comet will go to BLM, and Meteor will also.