Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

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Originally Posted by Valaris

lmao i said good reasons that help game dynamis you just proved there are none. and on smn burn pts only two can pull that off at a time so it will still force people to lvl in crawlers nest just like it was before abyssea. your reasons hold no merit at all if you cant list any that help game dynamics to support your claims dont bother wasting my time listing them and your reason 6 18 people=less people seeking you just hurt your own cause because less people seeking is whats creating the problom lmao. and yes people can still leech outside of abyssea but if you remember smn charged people gil for that and in my server people lvled the old ways because they would rather earn what that have rather than waste gil paying a some high lvl to pull the mobs for them.

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You are the only crying about how the system is broken and that things need to change, I dont need to list any reason other than abyssea has worked for months. If it was truly a problem, SE would have patched it by now.

Also, if theres less people seeking then theres less people not exping and therefore people arent stuck in town seeking. If you cant find a party nowadays my advice to you is to start your own pt or just suck less.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

You are the only crying about how the system is broken and that things need to change, I dont need to list any reason other than abyssea has worked for months. If it was truly a problem, SE would have patched it by now.

Also, if theres less people seeking then theres less people not exping and therefore people arent stuck in town seeking. If you cant find a party nowadays my advice to you is to start your own pt or just suck less.

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Or solo an all EP page for 100xp a kill +FOV. You can even do this while seeking.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

lmao i said good reasons that help game dynamis you just proved there are none. and on smn burn pts only two can pull that off at a time so it will still force people to lvl in crawlers nest just like it was before abyssea. your reasons hold no merit at all if you cant list any that help game dynamics to support your claims dont bother wasting my time listing them and your reason 6 18 people=less people seeking you just hurt your own cause because less people seeking is whats creating the problom lmao. and yes people can still leech outside of abyssea but if you remember smn charged people gil for that and in my server people lvled the old ways because they would rather earn what that have rather than waste gil paying a some high lvl to pull the mobs for them.

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Maybe it's because I just woke up from a nap, but I have no idea what the point of this is. I can't follow his train of thought. Someone help me translate.

and on a closing note. (after this im done wasting time explaining this). the opinions expressed in these forums dont really matter anyway. the developers have already increased the xp in areas outisde of abyssea. why do you think they have done this. simply to get people to xp outside of abyssea. once they realise that this is not working what do you think they will do. they obviously are not going to let all that programming they spent so much time on with those zones go to waste do you. no they are going to make a simple adjustment to abyssea such as a lvl restriction or a xp restriction on abyssea to force people away from low lvl leaching in there. they have already started toying with ideas to stop this kind of thing so enjoy it while it lasts.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

yesterday i remember someone saying theres no reason to up the lvl cap and challenged someone to list one well i will

reason 1: raising the cap will breathe new life into the old areas of vanadiel that have been tossed aside because of abyssea.

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Adding in new "Dynamic Events" to the old areas will breathe new life into the game. Example:

A player walks by Selbina only to see an NPC running away from the town crying while carrying her baby in her arms. Said adventurer goes into town to see more adventurers fighting off pirate NMs, and other players *casting Water on a house to put out a fire*.

Different town, different country, different area = different type of "event".

Also, this doesn't mean people *have* to level this way. The old way of leveling should be kept intact and co-exist with this one.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

reason 2: lvling in these areas will force people to periodically upgrade there characters armor from lvls 1-70 thus a reason for armors ranging from lvls 1-70 to exsist in the AH.

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Leveling in these *events* will force people to periodically upgrade there characters armor from lvls 1-70 thus a reason for armors ranging from lvls 1-70 to exsist in the AH.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

reason 3: lvling in the xp areas will also promote more synthing materials to appear in the AH due to the fact that alot of mats drop off of mobs people used to xp on.

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If people choose to level only through the Dynamic Events, they can get the same rewards and exp as if leveling the old way, thus will also promote more synthing materials to appear in the AH.

OR people can just level the old way too, since they don't *have to* level in the refreshingly new and fun events.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

reason 4: the combined effect of more synthing materials and the new need for the old gear that was origionally needed for lvling characters in the past will revive the games once thriving economy.

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People will need old gear to level in these events, and they'll get the same synthesis materials too!

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Originally Posted by Valaris

reason 5: lvling this way will allow characters to skillup while lvling. this will in the end save a bit of time anyways because once you hit 70 and go to abyssea to finish the lvl 70-90 you can accually hit something and not have to waste as much time skilling up.

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Leveling in these *events* will allow characters to skill up too!

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Originally Posted by Valaris

reason 6: this will allow new players to get partys alot easyer. all to often i hear new players shouting for partys in jeuno only to be told "lol go solo your lvls" this is just sad and we wonder why people quit the game so much. people play mmorpgs to be part of a community not to go solo everything.

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Anyone of any level will be able to participate in these events. There will be things to do in each event for people of varied levels. Whether solo or in a group!

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Originally Posted by Valaris

its very sad that most of the ff community has now come down with fast food syndrome meaning (i want it fast, i want it easy, and i wanted it yesterday >.>) this is just pathetic. you guys can bite the bullet on this one with the new xp bands and increased xp in the old areas it would take about 1 week to hit 70 in the old areas. rather than 3 days in abyssea you can sacrifice 2 days of xping to fix the game economy and help out new players. and with those reasons said i return the challenge give me 6 reasons why the cap should be lowered to 1 or stay the same and be sure to list reasons that will improve game dynamics such as sything, economy, use of old areas and so on. if you can find a way to fix all this and keep your leechfest then more power to you but i doubt that will ever happen.

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OR I can just go back to Abyssea leeching cuz SE hasn't implemented my neat ideas yet.

I set my expectations a lot higher than killing nameless mobs so I can reach max level to participate in endgame events.

I wanna be able to be *immersed* in the virtual and go on these events/ADVENTURES!

And if I want to, go and level "the old way" too, cuz just bashing something's head in over and over can be fun too.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

1. People will only sync to Eron[S], ToA zones, korroloka tunnel.

2. You dont need good gear to kill collibri or smn burn.

3. See above.

4. See point 2-3

5. Lvl sync will keep skill levels low, or in the case of smn burn skills will be the same as they are now.

6. Shout abyssea pts are 18 man groups, oldschool exp are 6 or less man pts. Abyssea = larger pts and less people seeking. Also there are 9 abyssea zones to choose from, but only 4 for sync (3 collibri, 1 smn burn).

Dont fool yourself into thinking that if people couldnt leech in abyssea that they would go back to places like crawlers nest or garlaige citadel.

Try again.

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You people fail to understand this, so I will say it again.

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Originally Posted by Dauntless

Problem with that is Pre-Abyssea level sync was still here and there were TONS of parties in old school spots that weren't just burn or bird parties. Why?

Simple really.

There are only so many parties that these spots can hold.

Pre-Abyssea there was no problem with everyone abusing smn burns and bird parties because more than 2 parties per camp and you wouldn't make it past chain 3, so the camp sucked. This stopped people from abusing and people actually made parties around their level.

Now the only parties outside of Abyssea are Qufim Island and Kazham because they're pre-30.

It's sad, really.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

and on a closing note. (after this im done wasting time explaining this). the opinions expressed in these forums dont really matter anyway. the developers have already increased the xp in areas outisde of abyssea. why do you think they have done this. simply to get people to xp outside of abyssea. once they realise that this is not working what do you think they will do. they obviously are not going to let all that programming they spent so much time on with those zones go to waste do you. no they are going to make a simple adjustment to abyssea such as a lvl restriction or a xp restriction on abyssea to force people away from low lvl leaching in there. they have already started toying with ideas to stop this kind of thing so enjoy it while it lasts.

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It might just be his server. There's plenty of XP outside of abyssea [This way.]

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

You are the only crying about how the system is broken and that things need to change, I dont need to list any reason other than abyssea has worked for months. If it was truly a problem, SE would have patched it by now.

Also, if theres less people seeking then theres less people not exping and therefore people arent stuck in town seeking. If you cant find a party nowadays my advice to you is to start your own pt or just suck less.

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lol i dont xp anymore i have 7 lvl 90 jobs and yes they were 75 long before the server merges and abyssea. i dont plan on lvling anymore jobs. i just dont have the inventory space for it. and suck less you say thats really funny if your on valefor server come pay me a visit and well see how much i suck lol

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Originally Posted by magnius

Maybe it's because I just woke up from a nap, but I have no idea what the point of this is. I can't follow his train of thought. Someone help me translate.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

I'm the new troll of the thread to be made fun of by rational people.

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About sums it up.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

lol at you is all i can say roflmfao when this game dies people like you will be the ones to blaime.

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You obviously have a hard time with reading comprehension so I'll break it down for you. Most people only exp'd in a few select areas and generally on the same type of mobs in the few areas that they did exp in. Raising the cap on abyssea will not cause all of these areas to magically become repopulated, they were dead long before abyssea existed.

Again, please come back when you know what you are talking about.