And you probably think that none of the maintenance team, dev team or administrative team was directly affected by the earthquake/tsunami. Nope they don't have to be out cleaning their house up off the street or helping their neighbor try to find and/or rescue loved ones. Nah they can just live in their cubical with a cot and corner fridge, and completely forget that their families and freinds are currently suffering loss of loved ones. None of that matters as long as they give you constant updates on when your game will be back. /end sarcasmQuote:
Originally Posted by Harbor
Can we have an update on the situation.
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03-22-2011, 12:33 AMAnethia
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03-22-2011, 12:48 AMDaigotsu
I dunno Anethia, I mean, someone who can't even spell college is probably not going to understand, even with the /end sarcasm
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03-22-2011, 12:50 AMChiibi
<3 Anethia
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03-22-2011, 12:52 AMHarborIll be sure to tell my spouse next time her family members are sick or dieing, or our hell if our neighbor gets snowed in or loses his dog she should close the winery. Surely the deliveries to chains of grocery stores, distributors, restaurants and the patrons or entertainment affected by this will understand, right? None of that matters as long as we the few have constant satisfaction in our own lives, hell to the fact we burnt more bridges in something as irrelevent as a company or customer satisfactions and our lively hood.Quote:
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03-22-2011, 01:10 AMNightDaggerA quick question for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anethia
If their is a fire in your local mall & you are located 25 miles from the fire do you close you business? What if two of your employees family members were there shopping? Would you close your business down for two weeks if you mother died?
If you said yes to any of the questions then you have no idea what running a business is about. i know Japan is not doing well, but do not use the fact that people may have lost family members and the such as a reason to not run their business, cause that's means nothing to a business. You are entitled to two days off to "grieve" then back to work. If SE is really keeping the servers down just cause of the fact that people have family members affected by the situation then that is horrible business & I do hope that they lose a lot of their player base cause of their idiotic decision. -
03-22-2011, 01:14 AMRAIST
been trying to avoid this thread for all the trolling in the past... but can't help myself... need to chunk some peanuts for this one:
lol at Harbor's post on the last page about college buddies and generators.
You do realize this is more or less a floor of equipment high end servers and clustered storage arrays, all typically wired with dual power supplies for power redundancy? It's not exactly something you power up by wheeling in a couple of Honda generators.
And their building doesn't just house the game you know...it's a 23 story building in a heavily commercialized district that houses 4 divisons of SE's conglomerate (including Taito Corporation), positioned right near a train station, several hospitals, two police stations, a major government offices building, a handful of schools and university campuses.....in short, it is a highly stressed out power grid in their sector that needs to be restricted from scheduled blackouts as much as possible....
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03-22-2011, 01:33 AMRAIST
Baseball-Loving Japan Delays Its First Pitch, but Not Without Debate
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/wo...?_r=1&src=tptw
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03-22-2011, 01:41 AMKailea_Nagisayou did not just compare a fire in a mall..... to this?.....you cant be that ignorant?....can you?Quote:
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03-22-2011, 01:54 AMNightDaggerFrom a business perspective what is the difference? Call me ignorant if you want idc. The fact will never change, people die everyday & life goes on. No matter what happens a business stays running. You do not close your doors for weeks/months because your employees lost family members. Either tell those employees to get to work or fire them it is simple, but do not wait for them to be ready to return to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa
Imagine if this happened in Canada, would SE shutdown & make the JP players wait? Seriously, they would not even think about it cause they want to make money.
I do care about what is going on in Japan but how long can companies close their doors cause of it? If they all stay shutdown they will not only hurt their own company but also the economy in Japan will be so low they will never recover.
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03-22-2011, 01:58 AMjeffanddaneI'm sorry but hes correct on this one. I mean just take his situation and put it on a massive scale. Having a heart doesn't get you paid in this kinnda of industry the longer you keep your doors closed the more people you lose whether it be for selfish reasons or not. No one is going to close a business unless the disaster directly effects there place of business. I mean look at Wal-Mart. . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa
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03-22-2011, 02:04 AMjeffanddaneAnd again your making yourself looking idiotic its just an example. Look at this in a massive scale and bam you have a natural disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraatos
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03-22-2011, 02:05 AMKraatosAs to u too obviously u have no clue whats going on in japan, or not payin attention to Raist or anything...Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffanddane
THE DISASTER DID EFFECT THERE PLACE OF BUISNESS CAUSE JAPAN IS THERE COUNTRY.... [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.].... and actually wal mart would prolly shut down to help out etc if something like this happen where u lived but u prolly live in a little shell or something i do not agree with any of u they were ordered to shut down there power supply to help there country end of discussion... Period IT WAS NOT THERE DESICION to turn off the game [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] -
03-22-2011, 02:06 AMChiibiDude not gonna lie but everything you just said there oozed ignorance and Douchebaggery(is that even a word?) you obviously dont care about whats happening in japan outside of "let me hide the fact i want to play behind 'i r care about se'" unless you are a shareholder you cant -Really- complain about the down time. As SE reps have stated themselves the downtime of public transport and people needing time to grieve/locate loved ones are why the servers are down (personally speaking i havent heard from my father or brother since the 11th. so yeah i 'Kinda' understand why se is minimizing production regardless of how much i need an escape from reality)Quote:
Originally Posted by NightDagger
Now i expect some kind of smarta$$ comment from you and to be honest it'll probably be an interesting read, But seriously Either Quit or keep quiet nothing you've tried stating in your defense is viable and only really proves how stupid you can act with regards to business.
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03-22-2011, 02:08 AMKraatosno because see i understand the world and what there doing u obviously dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffanddane
think of it this way.... say something happens n them reactors jus go n cause a chain reaction could cause the plates to shift again etc japan could be history. How many business's in the us RELY on japan etc alot but u dont realize that grow up -
03-22-2011, 02:10 AMKraatosim with her on this one jus keep quiet if u cant say soemthing that doesnt involved ur own greed SE will post something when they can etc servers will be up when they get the power supply under controlQuote:
Originally Posted by Chiibi
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03-22-2011, 02:11 AMjeffanddane
Actually most of my family lives in Tokyo what you got?
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03-22-2011, 02:14 AMChiibi
I got the fact ive yet to confirm mine are safe. you probably have no idea what its like to have to spend the first birthday of your life worrying about if your twin brother is alive to hit 22 with you.
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03-22-2011, 02:14 AMKraatoswhat part dont u get that SE was ordered by there government to shut down to conserve power? is it really that hard to understand?Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:14 AMOrdoric
mostlikely the servers where sut down due to power and rolling blackouts . so enuff odf that and i know acushnet japan shut production then was told by the home office to locate and hellp employees and familys they will be assiting with a rebuild, i can only imagine that SE is assumeing the same responsablites. now i would have liked it if they had a remotlocation for backup servers but thats just me.
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03-22-2011, 02:15 AMKraatosQuote:
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03-22-2011, 02:16 AMTribalProphetHaving power cut out from you for 3.5 - 7 hours a day (the can add another blackout if needed) kinda affects their business.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffanddane
Seriously guys, relax and your game will be back soon. SE is in a priority sector for getting out of the blackouts as it is. Spending all day pretending to care about their quarterly profits because you don't want to actually come out and say "idc what's going on I want my game back online" isn't going to make it come back any faster. -
03-22-2011, 02:17 AMjeffanddaneDon't act like you know me or my family lol. You don't know so shush your mouth. And best wishes to your family.Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:19 AMChiibii dont need to know your family. (well chances are i probably do but meh thats another topic) my comment still holds validity.Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:19 AMKraatosQuote:
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dude no one is tryin to act like they know u . Your giving ppl the impression of what they think bout u by the way u speak what are u 15? lolol -
03-22-2011, 02:20 AMjeffanddaneNah lol I visited them last month. And talk to them everyday since the earthquake >.>.Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:21 AMKraatos
well unfortunetly some ppl in japan and us dont have that option
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03-22-2011, 02:21 AMjeffanddaneI would say if that sentence was anything it would be a gangster XD. Not a 15 year old :P.Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:22 AMNightDaggerCall me what you will, but why? I did not say anything to you about your knowledge or anything. I dunno how you feel you can tell me what my life revolves around. I actually only play FFXI casual, meaning I play about 2-3 hours in the early mornings when my two young daughter wake up (age 3 & 2). Then I might log on after 10pm. when they go to sleep & my wife is asleep, cause spending time with my family is #1 on my list. So SE being down does not affect me that much at all really, all I am saying is how a business works & thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraatos
Now 4 years ago Ontario went through an ice storm that froze and blew up a lot of our power generators. We had to sit and wait 5 days in middle of December with no hydro. The power companies got power restored by borrowing power from USA. The whole time the power was down local companies rented generator's or had back-up power to keep them going. Now even though we had limited power through all this I still went shopping, went to work & was even able to get my hair cut. Elderly & young children died cause of the lack of heat but that did not stop companies from trying to resume everyday functions.
But on another note i for one do know how large of an impact Japan has on Canada. It is as close to zero as you could imagine. We only do 2.03% of our trading with them & roughly 52,000 people work for Toyota here.
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03-22-2011, 02:22 AMChiibiAnd again. I've yet to locate my Father and Twin brother. its also my birthday now. So yeah take solace in the fact you know your loved ones are safe.Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:25 AMjeffanddane
My loved are safe but still. . . . You would be surprised how many Japanese even in this situation think just like us here. My family also owns 2 business's there and haven't shut them down. So i don't know if you would consider that selfish or w/e. But they need to live to. So on and so fourth.
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03-22-2011, 02:25 AMKraatoshappy birthdayQuote:
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03-22-2011, 02:27 AMKraatosok, i do know what im talin bout japan has hell of alot more trade with US etc but this isnt bout that or anything fact of the matter is Ur still pissed off SE shut servers down and fact of the matter IS, this wasnt there DESICION THEY WERE ORDERED TO BY THE GOVERNMENT. . . that is out of SE Control period end of discussionQuote:
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03-22-2011, 02:28 AMChiibiThe ONLY Japanese who would think like that are the ones who have no family in the affected areas. Same applies to the insensitive jerks who think like night. Stop worrying about the business state of a company that only provides you with a videogame. You're not a shareholder and chances are you're not directly benefitting from them being up. Deal with it, Shut up and put SOME thought into what people have to deal with rather then "goddamn it why isnt ffxi back up!! konami is!!"Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:30 AMArconisI'm so sorry to hear this Chiibi I really do hope and will pray for there safe return. I too have people still missing and its dishearting being so far away and not being able to do anything. All I can do is keep everyone in my prayers and hope for the best.Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:31 AMNightDaggerWrong, Last time I will say this. get you facts straight. No one was "ordered" to conserve power, they were asked. SE chose to do this. Konami did not, they turned their servers down for 1 day & spent the second day doing their scheduled maintenance. It is everyone's discretion whether they want to conserve power or not.Quote:
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03-22-2011, 02:32 AMChiibiThen why pray tell ARE YOU COMPLAINING! SE's choice. Deal with it or cease doing business with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightDagger
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03-22-2011, 02:32 AMStarcadeAnd people wonder why I have major issues with most of the rank-and-file playerbase...Quote:
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I had a sick feeling something like this was going to happen, and I can't say I'm surprised.
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03-22-2011, 02:39 AMKraatosDude srsly shut it u have no clue what ur talkin bout......> Konami doesnt have a large online server based GAME!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NightDagger
and acctaully u are wrong cause SE has already stated there government asked them to do this etc but u dont know how to read so well
Being asked by the Government and told to do so is pretty much the same thing nub, cause ur not gonna tell ur government NO! cause in the end if the government needs the power they will jus shut it off them selfs SO YOU LEARN UR FACTS Nubcakes -
03-22-2011, 02:41 AMKraatos
Night i work night shift so i do nothing but look and watch the facts on line so srsly dont tell me u know more cause u really dont have a clue what ur talkin bout
If konami had a large online server based game they would prolly have shut down as well... god u have no clue what ur talkin bout -
03-22-2011, 02:42 AMHarborCAPS prove pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kraatos