[Dev] PS2 User Poll

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Originally Posted by Zerich

the polls they took about a year ago most likely beg to differ.

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Wheres your proof for this?? Moreover, if such a poll does exist I didn't see it or participate in it, which leads me to my next statement "that alot of people who play this game do not read these forums, and alot of people who read these forums do not post in them."

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Originally Posted by RAIST

I'm curious....just how does one get left behind if they don't visit the new continent?

Level to 99 in pre-Abyssea areas....check
Aquire Powerful abyssea gear solo at 99....check.
Complete Empyrean weapons either solo or with LS/FriendsList contacts....check.
CoP content level cap restrictions lifted....WotG/TAU (most all older content) soloable/low-man content now....check.

Sooooo...all you are denied without having access to the new zone, is the new zone and items that can only be obtained by completing content in that new zone (if it can be bought/traded, it can be acquired without completing said content).

So again.....just how does one get "left behind"?

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Ill help you out since you cant see it,
1) new lvling zones
2) New Gear
3) New City
4) New Missions
5) New Weapons
6) New Quests
7) New Blue Magic
8) New Items for Crafting
9) Mining, logging, havesting
10) New fishing Areas
11) New trails could be in said areas
12) New magic scrolls
13) Unlock New jobs
14) Open up logistics to get to New area
15) New Events

I can really go on and on about the new contents and ways you can get left behind

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

Wheres your proof for this?? Moreover, if such a poll does exist I didn't see it or participate in it, which leads me to my next statement "that alot of people who play this game do not read these forums, and alot of people who read these forums do not post in them."

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http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...opics_all.html

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

Where's your proof to back any of these claims up??

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It's common knowledge in the PS2/3 Scenes...as in people who tinker with this stuff as a hobby/job. Countless complaints in reviews about the platforms, excuses for why some houses did not lend support to the PS3 simply because it was easier to develop for the XB360 over the PS3.....it's all out there on the web if you've kept up with any of it over the years, you would be aware of it.

Announcements about FF14 Development. It was common knowledge, and the butt of jokes about them having to reduce texture sizes and such for the PS3 when it went into testing. Again, it was all out there on the web in reviews and forums back when it all went down.

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

Ill help you out since you cant see it,
1) new lvling zones
2) New Gear
3) New City
4) New Missions
5) New Weapons
6) New Quests
7) New Blue Magic
8) New Items for Crafting
9) Mining, logging, havesting
10) New fishing Areas
11) New trails could be in said areas
12) New magic scrolls
13) Unlock New jobs
14) Open up logistics to get to New area
15) New Events

I can really go on and on about the new contents and ways you can get left behind

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That is not getting left behind in any way shape or form. Being left behind implies you are rejected, discarded, left to rot and fend for yourself...you've become a modern day pariah because you don't have access to one island on the map.

All you've done is mostly make a list of new items, which as I stated earlier, if it is gear that can be bought/traded--you can still acquire them without stepping foot on the island.

New jobs....I've got 4 jobs stuck at 0, and never intend to unlock them. It hasn't caused me to be left out of any content because I don't have them available.

Events/Logistics...I don't do NNI, only hit floor 100 on NI this past year, still have a ton of assaults to do---doesn't mean I get rejected because I haven't completed that content. I have leaders in my LS that have yet to finish some of older content--haven't even finished WotG. None of that has caused them to get "left behind". I have friends that never even started Crafting or Synergy in the current scope of content, and it hasn't held them back.

People get very far in this ggame with never even gaining access to Khazaam. So, again.....how does it cause one to be spurned from the game if they don't have access to one island?

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

Wheres your proof for this?? Moreover, if such a poll does exist I didn't see it or participate in it, which leads me to my next statement "that alot of people who play this game do not read these forums, and alot of people who read these forums do not post in them."

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It was conducted through POL....when you logged in, you clicked off the platform you were playing on before the game launched. Guess you weren't playing then?

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Originally Posted by Zachary90

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...opics_all.html

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I saw this notification but I didn't participate in it, if they would've came out and said the data from this poll will determine how we support compatibility with other platforms, I would've participated in it. Moreover, whats the outcome of that poll? Do you have the tally?

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Originally Posted by RAIST

It's common knowledge in the PS2/3 Scenes...as in people who tinker with this stuff as a hobby/job. Countless complaints in reviews about the platforms, excuses for why some houses did not lend support to the PS3 simply because it was easier to develop for the XB360 over the PS3.....it's all out there on the web if you've kept up with any of it over the years, you would be aware of it.

Announcements about FF14 Development. It was common knowledge, and the butt of jokes about them having to reduce texture sizes and such for the PS3 when it went into testing. Again, it was all out there on the web in reviews and forums back when it all went down.

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If this is the case, as you state it, then why is ffxiv coming out for ps3 and ffxiv is not available for xbox? Just doesn't make sense, which again leads me to conclusion that there no reason why the new expansion shouldnt be available on ps2 or ffxi and all its contents shouldnt be available on ps3

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

If this is the case, as you state it, then why is ffxiv coming out for ps3 and ffxiv is not available for xbox? Just doesn't make sense, which again leads me to conclusion that there no reason why the new expansion shouldnt be available on ps2 or ffxi and all its contents shouldnt be available on ps3

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=no+ffxiv+for+360

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Originally Posted by Cljader1

If this is the case, as you state it, then why is ffxiv coming out for ps3 and ffxiv is not available for xbox? Just doesn't make sense, which again leads me to conclusion that there no reason why the new expansion shouldnt be available on ps2 or ffxi and all its contents shouldnt be available on ps3

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There has been much speculation on whey it's not coming to XB360--most likely it was due to some pushback from Microsoft, or simply a better deal was struck with Sony...possibly because of their long-standing relationship with Sony and their SDK. Also, PS3 kit is far more proprietary, and I would hazard a guess SE is far more familiar with the PS3 and programming directly to it's SPE's than trying to eek the prerformance out of the XB360. Even though it is claimed you can go from Visual Studio or XNA directly to XB360, Microsoft has layer upon layer of hoops to jump through to get something certified. At one point, for Windows apps, you couldn't use Java at all to get an app certified--not even a java connector or MySQL--it had to be ODBC, SQL, etc. or they wouldn't let you put their stamp on it.

Another topic of high contention is why they seemed to have stopped production of FFXI XB360 discs so soon after it's launch. Who knows, but there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes with these contracts, and from working for a company who continually struggled with recertifying partnership status with them over the years....Microsoft just likes to overcomplicate things as policy.