99 Empyrean Trials.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

Just what we need to make the game fun! A socioeconomic hierarchy! It was more fun to me when gil didn't mean much. Now, once again, it's the deciding factor between elite and not. It's not skill or social connections... it's how much gil you can throw around... I usually break out the line that it's better to be lucky than good, but I guess in pchan's ideal world it's better to be rich than either one.

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I feel bad for players forced to buy plates or other things like currency since, I've always looked down on the Throw gil at it approach. Someone who bought every plate/soul/horn on an ochain doesn't deserve to own one. Keep your bought weapons you certainly have no prestige for owning it. And, before people get upset because they bought half of something that's not what I mean. I mean players who bought start to finish 3+ empyrean and then claim to be "elite", I just see it as gimp.

I hope you have never brewed anything cos that would be pretty gimp if I follow your logic.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

Just what we need to make the game fun! A socioeconomic hierarchy! It was more fun to me when gil didn't mean much. Now, once again, it's the deciding factor between elite and not. It's not skill or social connections... it's how much gil you can throw around... I usually break out the line that it's better to be lucky than good, but I guess in pchan's ideal world it's better to be rich than either one.

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Correct, gil doesn't appear magically in your pocket. You are good <=> you have gil.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

I hope you have never brewed anything cos that would be pretty gimp

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like you brewed all your Draguas?
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

I hope you have never brewed anything cos that would be pretty gimp if I follow your logic.

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I've brewed before. I've also survived the old school HNM/sky/sea/Dynamis scene, teamed up with friends, done PUGs, and soloed as DNC or BST. I've also made gil and bought stuff off the AH before. I've had a pretty well rounded experience I'd say. If I'm gimp in your eyes, well that really doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

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Correct, gil doesn't appear magically in your pocket. You are good <=> you have gil.

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I've seen great players who never seem to have 2 gil to rub together, scrubs who seem to have an endless supply, and a whole lot in between. Just because you and SE seem to think gil is the ultimate measure of a player doesn't make it so.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

I hope you have never brewed anything cos that would be pretty gimp if I follow your logic.

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If you mean me, you are correct I have yet to brew even once. My cruor will likely go toward part 5 VW atmacite/KI

Also don't know how Buy items = Use brew

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Originally Posted by Zinato

I feel bad for players forced to buy plates or other things like currency since, I've always looked down on the Throw gil at it approach. Someone who bought every plate/soul/horn on an ochain doesn't deserve to own one. Keep your bought weapons you certainly have no prestige for owning it. And, before people get upset because they bought half of something that's not what I mean. I mean players who bought start to finish 3+ empyrean and then claim to be "elite", I just see it as gimp.

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To bad buying HMPs is the only way you will finish it before people throw the event to the way side. Doing the content slows you down when it should be the faster way of finishing.

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Originally Posted by Ravenmore

To bad buying HMPs is the only way you will finish it before people throw the event to the way side. Doing the content slows you down when it should be the faster way of finishing.

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Thats why I feel bad for them. As in all other cases throwing money around to get something is pretty lame, and doesnt say much of the player. Again, this refers to those special few who like to buy everything at high prices then claim they are elite for it. I mostly refer to R/X items. Don't bother dragging AH items into this that's not what I mean.

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Originally Posted by Erics

I would love to see you make a 90 empyrean from the START(that means the weapon out of the chest) in a few days...

Edit: We are comparing 95's because you can not have 99's without 95.

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People not only have done these in 8 to 9 days, they've done them often. Why are you even arguing the point? Do you think the developers don't know how easy preezy these weapons are?

Facts: 16,000 empyreans.

EASY PREEZY. These are being soloed and duoed up to 90 for ZERO cost in days.

Now you want the ultimate weapons soloed and duoed to 99 in days.

Get off it.

Do some work and earn the weapon...or settle for a very easy to get, very excellent level 90 weapon.

People have done the 95's. It's not that hard. Stop the crying.

if you have 9 friends all 2boxing with 1 relic per char, its still going to take 9 months to finish everyones relic...your math is dumb.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Correct, gil doesn't appear magically in your pocket. You are good <=> you have gil.

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Idk, my friend made 110m in the past month selling 1 byne bills for 600k