Merton Vs Odin: What the hell SE?

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Originally Posted by Eric

100 post threads.

As in threads with 100 posts.

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And in those threads with 100+ posts, there are 80~90 posts per 100 devoted on Dallas proclaiming that melee SMN is godly and can outdamage any/all melee while others, myself included, fall for his troll trap and try to correct him.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

And in those threads with 100+ posts, there are 80~90 posts per 100 devoted on Dallas proclaiming that melee SMN is godly and can outdamage any/all melee while others, myself included, fall for his troll trap and try to correct him.

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exactly lmao

Are you guys even reading what I'm typing? I'm asking you guys to show me other threads this large (100 posts) talking about how Odin needs to be fixed.

I'm not going to go through every single summoner thread to read how many people are talking about Odin, but a quick search of the forum for "Odin" and "Odin Summoner" doesn't come up with any relevant titles. At least not within the first page. Doesn't that say something about your claim that SMNs have always been complaining about Odin to this extent?

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Originally Posted by Eric

Are you guys even reading what I'm typing? I'm asking you guys to show me other threads this large (100 posts) talking about how Odin needs to be fixed.

I'm not going to go through every single summoner thread to read how many people are talking about Odin, but a quick search of the forum for "Odin" and "Odin Summoner" doesn't come up with any relevant titles. At least not within the first page. Doesn't that say something about your claim that SMNs have always been complaining about Odin to this extent?

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There are no other threads.

Although poorly worded and bad choice of topics, this thread basically is the first that requests SE to look into Odin's 2hr move into doing better accuracy on normal mobs.

Feedback was given/spread thought out other threads, yes this is the first one asking to look into Odin.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

There are no other threads.

Although poorly worded and bad choice of topics, this thread basically is the first that requests SE to look into Odin's 2hr move into doing better accuracy on normal mobs.

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Yes. That's the point I'm trying to make. Not only does the thread title imply jealousy on the OP's behalf (justified or unjustified as it may be), but instead it makes the whole thread seem like a joke.

By the logic the OP was using, I should also make a thread called "Mijin Gakure vs Merton: What the hell SE?", and then claim that the purpose of the thread is to improve NIN's 2hr, rather than to compare and try to demean improvements being made to another job?

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Originally Posted by Eric

Yes. That's the point I'm trying to make. Not only does the thread title imply jealousy on the OP's behalf (justified or unjustified as it may be), but instead it makes the whole thread seem like a joke.

By the logic the OP was using, I should also make a thread called "Mijin Gakure vs Merton: What the hell SE?", and then claim that the purpose of the thread is to improve NIN's 2hr, rather than to compare and try to demean improvements being made to another job?

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I wanna see you make this thread.

Then I'll support you.:cool:

The original point I was trying to make is that there's no harm in letting SCH have Merton, and that Summoners shouldn't be angry, because while Odin's Astral Flow has it's problems, it wasn't as big of an issue(I'm not saying that it wasn't an issue before this)until someone saw Merton and thought "OH NO, SCH is doing something better than SMN! I demand Odin to be made on par with it!".

What some people are forgetting is that SMN can already do so many great things with Astral Flow. Merton won't change that. Not all abilities/spells/2hrs are amazing. So what?

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Originally Posted by Eric

The original point I was trying to make is that there's no harm in letting SCH have Merton, and that

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I mean you no disrespect, you just didn't read this thread or any of the post I've made in this thread, knowing that would explain your quote.

however other summoners that did post in this thread are rather blunt on the situation or w/e you wanna call this.

Last I'll say it again, I'm ecstatic when I saw that video and was very happy to sch getting this type of spell. I don't even have that job to 90 and I'm more happy for it than some of the things I got on summoner, that does not in anyway change anything I would say about the job SCH.

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Originally Posted by Eric

By the logic the OP was using, I should also make a thread called "Mijin Gakure vs Merton: What the hell SE?", and then claim that the purpose of the thread is to improve NIN's 2hr, rather than to compare and try to demean improvements being made to another job?

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Because the two are similar. Oh wait.

Look, the reason people haven't been bitching about Odin is because we accepted that SE didn't want to give ANY job death-ga. We thought they would favor balance over everything else, and that Odin sucking was just par for the course.

Now SCH gets death-ga. Do you see the problem here? It's not about bitching to bitch. It's about being bent over the table for years, and then being told that 'we could have it worse'.

And go back to the years before SCH was even a job. You'll see SMN is low on the list.