I remember shouting in PJ once if I could pull an Abyssea lot system onto Royal Jelly. Phalanx scrolls were 700k at the time, and I really didn't wanna pay that. 2 people responded it would be selfish to want the one scroll from any orb, but as long as I was giving away the much more valuable Ni it would be okay. For clarification, the lot system I mean is like this: "/sh Glavoid, Do You Need It? Shells X. All Else FL. /tell <me>". I actually did get 2 other people to join, but we didn't get any drops. The next day I bought it after all. The rules as they are now are just fine, even when some people don't play fair. I rest easy knowing that not everyone I see wants to stab me in the back. As long as everyone knows the rules, the rules work. This extends across all cultures and people, even in an online game.
There is no need for overhaul because the system leaves room for player application, and language barriers prevent a good amount of cross-cultural rule-breaking. People who speak multiple languages are also at least partially aware of the customs surrounding that language, and are more than happy to comply unless they are habitual rule-breakers. Warning lists in general are to both inform other players of wrongdoing and force the accused to make amends or face dire social consequences. The only concrete reason to want a change is to create unfair advantages that don't rely on the ever-present faults of humanity.
Cultural Lotting Changes, now with no risk of being closed
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07-01-2011, 09:27 AMInfamousDS
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07-01-2011, 09:58 AMkatz
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07-01-2011, 10:01 AMKorpgYou still posted slander towards me, regardless of deleting it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by katz
The thing is, since you have no proof as to otherwise, it must be true.
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07-01-2011, 10:14 AMkatz
If I did slander you then I can only apologize as it was unintentional. I dont recall ever saying anything personal about you unlike some of the comment you and others have said about me.
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07-01-2011, 10:20 AMKorpgAutomatic slander again. We did not say anything bad about you and you are making accusations that we all made verbal attacks on you again. And since you deleted everything, you knew of your slanderous words just to protect you from the very rules you accuse us of breaking.Quote:
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And the above is true, because it follows logically. So this post is not slanderous. -
07-01-2011, 10:33 AMkatz
Taken from a quote with the quote context highlighted for those who keep accusing me of believing shouldnt write their own rules. "
There is nothing new about linkshell leaders giving out favours to favourite people. Just like there is nothing new about ninja lotter (IYO). As I have previously stated everyone who is in my linkshell has the right to lot on anything that drops. If you took part in the activity then it is fair that you can lot on it. It can be the first time it dropped, it doesnt matter, you helped it happen. This is a much fairly system than most linkshell run. I dont care if you want it to store in your mog house when someone else could be using it, your reason for wanting it is as valid as someone elses. This is in my opinion there is no such thing as a ninja lot. I can see a need for people who want to stop other people from lotting to have a system change. Maybe it would be better for leaders to say who cant lot or leaders to have the right to pass it from others. Ive seen examples where people argue over who has what rights and as you have all said you all signed up to the linkshell leaders rules so the linkshell leaders should have the rights to do what they want people will just leave if its a bad shell. I would like to see the quartermaster applied but dont see how it can work with ex rare gear. -
07-01-2011, 10:38 AMKorpgAnd since I don't need a change for the new lotting system, and you do, but the old lotting system had people steal drops from others, you have basically said that I am a thief! More slander!Quote:
Originally Posted by katz
Since I back linkshell distribution methods and you don't, and I don't want to change the system at all, and those who have such a linkshell distribution system must be a bad linkshell, you just called my entire linkshell and a lot of other's bad people! Even more slander!
When are you going to be satisfied with slandering everyone here?
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07-01-2011, 10:42 AMkatz
Your slanderous quote "On a personal note: Are you one who stolen stuff from others? You seem so adamantly against this current system, is it because you are on the "name and shame" list? "
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07-01-2011, 10:44 AMkatzIm not against linkshell distribution as the bolder underlined statement shows. I just dont operate it. You on the other hand are determined to make up stuff that I havent said (see bold above)Quote:
Originally Posted by Korpg
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07-01-2011, 10:45 AMKorpgSlander: To make a false statement against somebody to defame or create malicious insinuations towards another.Quote:
Originally Posted by katz
Since what you quoted was a question, not a statement, that is not slander nor was it a slanderous statement.