So, I can't comment on an issue someone else brought up and debated for a while?Quote:
Originally Posted by GlobalVariable
In case you didn't notice, I was trying to steer it back towards the real issue.
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But, that was a sideline argument that somehow got started up about whether it effects security or not. The main points of the debate is that up until this move, we always had a CHOICE in what information was displayed. Various people will have various reasons for displaying or hiding it--the simple fact remains that SE themselves provides us a choice to hide our info on one of their sites, and then they are forcing us to display it here, with no reasonable justification for demanding that it be published.
It really serves no purpose to unite the community or encourage participation, and may potentially create some pockets of division or discourage participation--as evidenced by some saying they will not be logging into the forums after this is implemented.
Character name can't be hidden.
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06-26-2011, 11:32 AMRAIST
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06-26-2011, 11:35 AMGlobalVariable
That wasn't at only you. Clarification: isn't "proof" that it doesn't matter.
And not working real well is it.Quote:
I was trying to steer it back
And folks...We can use a mule. All this stuff we're talking about isn't a prob because you can use a mule. And since you can use a mule there really isn't a reason to not let us have a hide option, but its still no problem right now since we can use a mule. Jeez. 13 pages. -
06-26-2011, 11:44 AMRAIST
Why should someone pay an extra fee each month for something they don't need--even if it is only $1? I've been playing for years and never needed a mule....got 10 jobs to 90 and 6 locked at 51, and currently have like 25 slots free to carry junk on me and I logged out on NIN.
Someone shouldn't need to create and pay for an alt if they don't want to display anything about their main. They should have the option to hide that inormation just like they can elsewhere. -
06-26-2011, 11:46 AMGlobalVariable
Did I not just argue that there is no reason to not have a hide option because of mule use?
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06-26-2011, 11:48 AMRAISTdid I not just mention I have never used a mule and have no need for one? Again, why should someone in the same set up need to pay for an alt if they want to remain private?Quote:
Originally Posted by GlobalVariable
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06-26-2011, 11:49 AMGlobalVariable
Facepalm. We're asking for the same option. I used it as a reason for said option. Direct it at SE not me...
Hint: I didn't say they should have to. I said they can.Quote:
Why should someone
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06-26-2011, 11:56 AMRAISTmy bad... the wording threw me off... post #113 before sounded more like you were saying there is no need to have a hide option because you have the option to use a mule...caused a knee-jerk reaction to the follow up post.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlobalVariable
That seems to be the problem with some of the division here... a lot of the really old players are saying "just use a mule", glossing over the fact that many (especially newer players) may not have one. There are many that have been around a reasonable amount of time, but came late enough to have access to more storage and may never have needed one so never created one in the first place. -
06-26-2011, 12:02 PMGlobalVariable
Likely my fault anyway, a bit distracted atm no time to re-read and I think I skipped part of the middle segment of the thread. I remember the 1st posts had to do with it being silly to require it since we'll use mules, and would also be silly to remove mule use because we'd just stop posting. They are correct.
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06-26-2011, 12:58 PMDallasYou come from BG. You have an entire forum devoted to tracking players you don't like. You use their gear to track them from server to server. Naturally you want access to everyone's information so you can use bullying tactics instead of having to learn how to be civil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatguardian
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06-26-2011, 01:16 PMKarbuncleBG is not devoted to tracking players they don't like. If you're talking about the "Cross-Server Warning" sub-Section. its not devoted to people BG hates, It tracks people who have performed terrible deeds in their past in an attempt to keep others from falling victim to these players bad deeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas
As they have been shown to repeat said deeds.
Insulting BG in itself simply because you don't enjoy the website is uncivil. the irony is palpable.
Edit: Sorry, On the topic of "People will either use a mule or stop posting".
I wrote this a while back in this thread, But i've been using my In-game name on FFXI related forums and have never been stalked/harassed/etc in Game. The Community as a whole generally does not care about Forums. Very few of the population actually visit/read FFXI Forums.
I'd venture as far to say probably only ~20% of FFXI population regularly read/visit FFXI Forums. Of that % i would say less than 5% of that 20% Will actually insult/harass someone in-game over a forum post.
People might say "Oh, its xxx on the xxx server, lululul" but i bet if you asked anyone who has been "targeted" like that, It probably hasn't effected their in-game play at all. No one on the forums openly act on players in game they recognize from the forum because its harassment, and they care about their characters.
I can see the idea of wanting to remain anonymous if you're afraid people who disagree/don't like you might "Stalk" you, but they wont, if they do blist and GM them for harassment, they're obviously idiots.
Edit2: And all these people talking about "finally knowing who the char behind the forumer is" aren't going to go around harassing people. They just want to know who it is. They don't care about you in game. Its literally just knowledge they seek.
I personally wouldn't care either way. All i need to know about you people is in your posts. That information alone tells me rather you're stupid or not. I don't need to know anything else.