Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

There have always been retarded max level players..

I think zeitzone is just trolling now lol


let me follow their logic

"I sure am glad i solo killed 10,000 beastmen pets on BLM... If it wasn't for the countless hours of sleep nuking i wouldn't be able to macro staves.. or heaven forbid use elemental seal >> sleepga in an emergency!!"

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Originally Posted by Mrbeansman

Again for the billionth time the player quality is the exact same as it was before abyssea.

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Prove me!
I seen the quality going down for 60%.
Ppl who before never touched FFXI becouse it was too hard for them are coming into the game, number of 14years old Kids playing this game had grow. How i know? Im asking new Players for them Age.

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Originally Posted by Zeitzone

I did endgame, but endgame stuff for years. It is only Pimping, thats boring.
You only do that to perfect your gear.
Thats the Way how playing WoW or other cheap games, to get fast to engame and then pimp out of boredom.
But FFXI was/has to return to something special. You pimp but after a long time of fun with partys and other Events.

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Then shout in Port Jeuno to create parties to experience nostalgia and people wanting a cool-down.

Your making something into a problem that shouldn't be one in the first place. HELL, make a topic about those wanting to do some old-school parties and maybe you could even make a static, I'm sure there are 5 people from your server.

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Originally Posted by Zeitzone

I did endgame, but endgame stuff for years. It is only Pimping, thats boring.
You only do that to perfect your gear.
Thats the Way how playing WoW or other cheap games, to get fast to engame and then pimp out of boredom.
But FFXI was/has to return to something special. You pimp but after a long time of fun with partys and other Events.

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This is not a factual argument its you having an opinion.

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Originally Posted by Zeitzone

I did endgame, but endgame stuff for years. It is only Pimping, thats boring.
You only do that to perfect your gear.
Thats the Way how playing WoW or other cheap games, to get fast to engame and then pimp out of boredom.
But FFXI was/has to return to something special. You pimp but after a long time of fun with partys and other Events.

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Exping was the most boring, monotonous, and time consuming part of the game. Hurray you know how to hit shit while someone PLs you.

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Originally Posted by Zeitzone

Prove me!
I seen the quality going down for 60%.
Ppl who before never touched FFXI becouse it was too hard for them are coming into the game, number of 14years old Kids playing this game had grow. How i know? Im asking new Players for them Age.

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NO! you prove to me that the 60% isn't an eyeball estimate you pulled outta of your ass.

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Quality of the players goes down becouse of the cheap way of leveling. Even a 3years old can klick a box and gain exp.

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Pretty much not true. You know how many new players there are now? Very few. Most of the people that are being chest keyers or leeching or whatever have already leveled up one or several jobs the old fashioned way from before abyssea existed. Any practice these people need with a job can be attained while they skill up their combat skills.

I'm amazed that this thread has 55 pages (20/page) and well over 1000 posts. I don't understand why this is a big deal at all.

As i've posted several times before: If you don't like people who do this, then DON'T PLAY WITH THEM! Blacklist them, kick them from your party,ask them to leave, ask the leader to kick, leave the party, whatever. You are in control of your own play experience.

(also: the average age of people who play games like this is pretty high, in the upper 20s to lower 30s. There is not "60% of ppl that are 14 year olds")

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

There have always been retarded max level players..

I think zeitzone is just trolling now lol


let me follow their logic

"I sure am glad i solo killed 10,000 beastmen pets on BLM... If it wasn't for the countless hours of sleep nuking i wouldn't be able to macro staves.. or heaven forbid use elemental seal >> sleepga in an emergency!!"

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Ewwww BLM solo leveling.

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Originally Posted by Nacht

Exping was the most boring, monotonous, and time consuming part of the game. Hurray you know how to hit shit while someone PLs you.

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Then why did you play it?
If it was sooooo boring.
Becouse it wasnt, becouse you sure had alot of fun in one or another party, you laughed together with strangers, you enjoyed a good party and even meet friends that way.

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Originally Posted by Zeitzone

Quality of the players goes down becouse of the cheap way of leveling. Even a 3years old can klick a box and gain exp.

But read my former Post.

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In all honesty, that marked change in player attitued came with the addition of the 360 player base.