Any new HNM coming?

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Originally Posted by Natenn

More like sitting in canyon doing Glavoids for 10 ppl gets annoying. I wanna do stuff other ppl can't do. Abyssea the only thing to do, and since VWNM gonna give cruor buffs it just makes things even worse. More crutches for the sloppy portion of players left.

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Yah, I know that kinda sucks.

Also, Hopefully the buffs for the VW system aren't as powerful as Abyssea... So there won't be that "Big" of a crutch for players. While i think the content should be accessible, I think the idea of watching a duo group Zombie something for 40 minutes is a bit on the extreme side.

Need to let SE know we love Abyssea, but at the same time, challenging content away from that system would be lovely too.

(however, do take note, NMs like Rani, Raja, Ogopogo(yes, hes a whore), Shinryu, etc, show even with our god-buffs, some NMs can be quite difficult. So while we may get these "buffs" in the new system, the NMs may pose a good threat still!)

Both = Win.

show me an hnm that was in the game 7 years ago, and ill show you an hnm that can be zombied to death

apparently you forgot that gilsellers were not only claiming but killing hnm's

there was a zombie fight of AV that lasted 3 days when one group first got it to stop 2houring

avesta could solo pretty much anything before you knew it existed

oh and the hardest thing this game has ever had, you still havent beaten the way SE wants you too


so tell me natenn, when you wake up, do you cry, do tears come out of your eyes cause i got what i wanted, and your "game" is now over with? how long till you quit, have you already, do you have a razor blade next to your bed


QQ more, we won, you lost

brb bumping a 2 week old thread cause im mad.

ANYWAY, who is this "we" you are reffering to? what exactly did you win? and how did I lose? What did i lose? we still got 2 lvl cap increases yet to be implemented and it would make sense to add "real" HNM at 99, stop trying to act like you know me, chances are im more skilled then you, go flame elsewhere my friend.

With that aside, we should get "real" HNM at 99 id hope. Ones found through exploration that are rarely up and have great drops. Also hard enough that the average LS would have plenty of trouble, so many old players waiting on new HNM to come back to reactivate their accounts.

the "we" is you and your minions who think world pop hnm's are the way to be

you lost because your precious world pop hnm's are now spawned, awwwwww

and how does it make sense to be actively changing the game away from the way it was, only to bring it back at 99, it doesnt thats how


and ill throw your own "logic" against you, you dont know me, dont act like you do, and chances are your not better than me, and im not better than you, but i do see the bigger picture much better than you, youve made that more than obvious, so go crawl back into your bed, QQ into your pillow, and let me get back to my game lol


btw, when you quit, can i have your stuff, apparently you have a lot of really good stuff from all your PS2 CLAIMING lol

Actually Sureal ..>.>
Maybe you should let him give me his stuff instead... I could use more good stuff from his PS2 Claiming lol

Guess we'll see at or a few updates after 99 won't we?

Natenn is obviously one of the only skilled players posting in here, and yes, its because he understands that HNM are meant for the dedicated player, not the people hoping for all poppable nm's all the time. You dont need a bot to claim so stop using that as an excuse on why up until abyssea your characters gear sucked. And honestly, the excitement from just claiming an HNM outweighs the gear it drops. Im sure a majority of the people that are against time spawns have actually never even tried to camp with their amazing social ls, because "everyone bots". Maybe go out with more than your 3 friends and update your 56k dial up modem and youll see your claim rate increase. HNM is endgame, and endgame is not for everybody, sorry. Either get better and join a real ls or stick to things you can kill within the 2 hours a day you feel like playing the game.

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Originally Posted by Sharktopus

Natenn is obviously one of the only skilled players posting in here, and yes, its because he understands that HNM are meant for the dedicated player, not the people hoping for all poppable nm's all the time. You dont need a bot to claim so stop using that as an excuse on why up until abyssea your characters gear sucked. And honestly, the excitement from just claiming an HNM outweighs the gear it drops. Im sure a majority of the people that are against time spawns have actually never even tried to camp with their amazing social ls, because "everyone bots". Maybe go out with more than your 3 friends and update your 56k dial up modem and youll see your claim rate increase. HNM is endgame, and endgame is not for everybody, sorry. Either get better and join a real ls or stick to things you can kill within the 2 hours a day you feel like playing the game.

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As much I like the general meaning of your post, I have to disagree.

Game has changed and the company has REALLY changed. I don't like the changes but it is what it is.

Do I hope for more HNM spawn? Yeah. Do I think it will happen? Probably not. That's just looking at the general direction they have taken the updates. Update get more and more rediculous/pointless/lolz.

iQuit but if they add new hnm and more variety to endgame (that makes SENSE... /stare dynamis update) then maybe someday i'll make a comeback. I'm not an elitest bitch, I'm a bored one who will not be trolled or taken advantage of by SE.

I know people will come to SE defense but a lot of the stuff they do feels very trollish. It feels like theyre trying to milk us while not providing us with meaty content/updates. Fixes do not satiosfy me. They broke the game, they should hire the manpower and rescourses to fix it and DRAGGING the new cap out, imo, is probably due to the fact that they WONT address this issue because they don't want or don't have the manpower to fix or readjust XI. This is not limited to HNMs.

I will not be milked or distracted from the fact that abyssea has made this game suck and the updates following it have been abyssea related ish. I'm sick of abyssea. I... Can't. I hate the dynamis changes JUST because RELICS SUCK.. People are complaining about the usefullness of RELICS not the entertaining quality of DYNAMIS.. GTFO *rage*. Oh look! Neat little fixes for dynamis! K.. But relics still suck and thats the reason for dynamis and no w-t-f change to offer me 3 weeks worth of amusement is going to change that. Throwing the player base little pieces of bread is not gonna cut it. We want a steak. I'm not falling for this "oh.. were just slowly raising the cap due to balance issues and we have something up our sleeve *wink*".

Talk to the hand SE, ok? What balance issues?.. Most ppl have all jobs they want 90 and cap merits. What you holding out for? Oh, idk.. Maybe it's because you know this is it for FFXI due to resource issue because your mmo (which ffxi is funding) is bombing harder the spirits within, which was actually a good movie. You guys probably don't have many varsatile plans for the game. This direction is pretty much it and it will mostly be fixes excluding the cap increase and JA/Magic additions. Lol@new areas,expansion,ps2 limtations, new mob colors,hearty content etc etc.

Though, I could be wrong. I hope I am. As an 8 year retired player, I'd love to eat my words. But I know a marketing scheme when I see one and this "holding out" the new cap is probably tied into the plans and timeline that is Fixing Final Fantasy XIV. Hmmm, I wonder why. Lolz.

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Originally Posted by Sharktopus

Natenn is obviously one of the only skilled players posting in here, and yes, its because he understands that HNM are meant for the dedicated player, not the people hoping for all poppable nm's all the time. You dont need a bot to claim so stop using that as an excuse on why up until abyssea your characters gear sucked. And honestly, the excitement from just claiming an HNM outweighs the gear it drops. Im sure a majority of the people that are against time spawns have actually never even tried to camp with their amazing social ls, because "everyone bots". Maybe go out with more than your 3 friends and update your 56k dial up modem and youll see your claim rate increase. HNM is endgame, and endgame is not for everybody, sorry. Either get better and join a real ls or stick to things you can kill within the 2 hours a day you feel like playing the game.

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i agree, especially with the first sentance.

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Originally Posted by Anewie

Though, I could be wrong. I hope I am. As an 8 year retired player, I'd love to eat my words. But I know a marketing scheme when I see one and this "holding out" the new cap is probably tied into the plans and timeline that is Fixing Final Fantasy XIV. Hmmm, I wonder why. Lolz.

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Anewie, why are your posts so beautiful? <3

so you DO agree that the claim is the excitement and not the gear, so put hte same gear on bcnm mobs


oh wait, you still want to have something to lord over players

i.e. you want to feel elite about something and feel as though a game is your best opportunity, got it

Don't put it in a BCNM, then it not gonna be special. Fight for the best gear = real endgame.

you all may say, oh this game is going downhill, they are killing the game, they are losing customers. when in actuallity i do believe more players are coming back for the way the game is now, the game is more community oriented, and much more friendly. when fafhogg was the endallbeall of endgame, people were straight up assholes to each other, you were forced to play much longer than you really should in one sitting (thereby negating the opening warning to the game that they do not want you to ignore your REAL LIFE), knowing that i can log on, AND ACTUALLY GET SHIT DONE in 2 hours is awesome

world spawn nm's, while they filled a niche, and i understand what they were going for, were a dumb idea, because as has been stated, after the first kill, there was no challenge, AN NO, CLAIMING IS NOT THAT CHALLENGE, claiming was an epeen event, LOOK AT ME, I CLAIMED THE SAME MONSTER 15 DAYS IN A ROW AND YOU DONT GET TO FIGHT YET AGAIN CAUSE IM MORE LEET THAN YOU WILL EVER BE LAWLS, you know what, i dont care what gear you have, it does not affect me on a day to day basis, i dont log off crying thinking to myself "he has so much better gear than me, why cant i be as good as him" even when faf was king, i didnt look at the other ls's and think they were better people, as a group yes, there are some better ls's overall, but on a personal level i despised people because they were bottlenecking endgame for me and others, i dont feel that way now, in this game, at that time, if you wanted to merit/xp on certain jobs you had to have certain gear or you might as well just log off, now you dont have to have the best of the best, you dont have to camp fafhogg daily, there is movement for the general populus, but at the same time there is gear that the general populus will not be able to get just for the difficulty in trials, or relics, or mythics. and do not come in here crying about relics sucking, you sir have done no research whatsoever, as i just spent all of 10 mins perusing ffxiclopedia's weapons database only to find that in every, let me repeat that, EVERY instance where they had the information for relics, mythics, and empeyreans at the same lvl (i.e. all fully upgraded at lvl 90), the relic was the winner, not some of the time, not the majority of the time, EVERY SINGLE TIME, yeah, you put in a lot of work to get your 75 relic, and i applaud you for that, but do you truely expect your lvl 75 weapon to be better than a fully upgraded lvl 90 empeyrean?

final fantasy is finally becoming what the original developers wanted, a community based game, where you NEED help to do things, but you will not spend days upon days just lfp, if you dont like it leave, most of your ilk have already, the rest of us will enjoy this new game

ktxhbai


p.s. can i have your stuff?

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Originally Posted by Natenn

Don't put it in a BCNM, then it not gonna be special. Fight for the best gear = real endgame.

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but i thought it was the CLAIMING that was exciting, the titles, i mean that is what you said

Like i said, nothing obtainable so easily is worth working hard towards. But gj on the wall of text, all i got from it was an "I'm mad". Game is going down hill w/o real HNM to camp, if it were comming back they would bring back a few servers but what happened last big update? More servers got shutdown. Can try to glorify abyssea/thinking cause you can pop and kill a NM that every other person on server killed is endgame but its not, i think of it more like sticking a pacifyer in a babys mouth. Don't see me complain/hate every post, just waitin on the new HNMs to be added eventually.

actually i do see you complaining every post, hell, this entire thread is you complaining


so, can i have your stuff yet?

Go earn it.

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Originally Posted by Sureal

you all may say, oh this game is going downhill, they are killing the game, they are losing customers. when in actuallity i do believe more players are coming back for the way the game is now, the game is more community oriented, and much more friendly. when fafhogg was the endallbeall of endgame, people were straight up assholes to each other, you were forced to play much longer than you really should in one sitting (thereby negating the opening warning to the game that they do not want you to ignore your REAL LIFE), knowing that i can log on, AND ACTUALLY GET SHIT DONE in 2 hours is awesome

world spawn nm's, while they filled a niche, and i understand what they were going for, were a dumb idea, because as has been stated, after the first kill, there was no challenge, AN NO, CLAIMING IS NOT THAT CHALLENGE, claiming was an epeen event, LOOK AT ME, I CLAIMED THE SAME MONSTER 15 DAYS IN A ROW AND YOU DONT GET TO FIGHT YET AGAIN CAUSE IM MORE LEET THAN YOU WILL EVER BE LAWLS, you know what, i dont care what gear you have, it does not affect me on a day to day basis, i dont log off crying thinking to myself "he has so much better gear than me, why cant i be as good as him" even when faf was king, i didnt look at the other ls's and think they were better people, as a group yes, there are some better ls's overall, but on a personal level i despised people because they were bottlenecking endgame for me and others, i dont feel that way now, in this game, at that time, if you wanted to merit/xp on certain jobs you had to have certain gear or you might as well just log off, now you dont have to have the best of the best, you dont have to camp fafhogg daily, there is movement for the general populus, but at the same time there is gear that the general populus will not be able to get just for the difficulty in trials, or relics, or mythics. and do not come in here crying about relics sucking, you sir have done no research whatsoever, as i just spent all of 10 mins perusing ffxiclopedia's weapons database only to find that in every, let me repeat that, EVERY instance where they had the information for relics, mythics, and empeyreans at the same lvl (i.e. all fully upgraded at lvl 90), the relic was the winner, not some of the time, not the majority of the time, EVERY SINGLE TIME, yeah, you put in a lot of work to get your 75 relic, and i applaud you for that, but do you truely expect your lvl 75 weapon to be better than a fully upgraded lvl 90 empeyrean?

final fantasy is finally becoming what the original developers wanted, a community based game, where you NEED help to do things, but you will not spend days upon days just lfp, if you dont like it leave, most of your ilk have already, the rest of us will enjoy this new game

ktxhbai


p.s. can i have your stuff?

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This post has very good points. I totally agree, the game has finally become more fun since majority of players are able to get things done together with friends and LS mates without the 21-24hour HNMs Repop..

21-24hour NMs limit the amount of players who want to kill the NMs for drops. This is a problem because only people who can build their "LIFE SCHEDULE" around a "VIDEO GAME" can actually be able to get access to the content while majority who log on to play the game for fun can't.

People have lives, people have work, people have families, people have friends in RL. You have to have absolutly no life whats so ever to agree the time consuming elements that holds off challenging elements, are fun.

Lets face it, Time consuming elements are made so you can be kept in game longer doing the same thing over rather than challenge you with fights. Claiming is not even part of the challenge and if it is, then thats why the community is getter better since SE is making more NMs "???" pop markers so people can take turns rather than Fighting each other for a simple chance to fight an NM.

If you want hard core competitions then go play World of war craft. That game has many PVP elements to it for players who love competitions in a lot of aspects. FFXI's PVP system really is bad for that. FFXi was build more around the PvE so players can team up against the environment. Against the mobs, not against each other.

I want FFXI to have more PVP elements but I do NOT want SE to make it a "CLAIM WAR".
If claiming becomes the true competition in this game then this game fails cause trying to claim from another player is not fun, specially the fact thay you got one chance at it and if you lose, you need to wait another 21-24hours window to pop.

Make the game less time consuming and more challenging for any gamers to have access and enjoy the contents. Those who finish contents too fast and play 12hours a day and have nothing to do in game needs to go outside for a change and get a job in RL rather than playing like a bot.

Thats all I gotta say.

but dont you remember, you said i just wanted everything handed to me, gah, as if i would go out and do work


/sarcasm off

I used to be against the addition of new HNMs, but I've changed my mind. I didn't like the HNMLS-type players when the cap was 75. Now that they've been forced to join the regular players against the same mobs I see that I was right. PLease add something for them to go monopolize so they'll get lost and the rest of us can easily ignore them entirely again.