Monstrosity Feedback

Yes, I agree, I just neglected to quote Selindrile who said there are no rewards for your main character, and I was intending to point out that it can be a alternate way to complete RoEs and get sparks, which is sort of a roundabout way to get "drops" for your character (chapters, gear, whatever). Plus the novelty of it can be neat when you get tired of looking at your main or being on the same job(s) or whatever, or need something to do in downtimes. Being able to quickly teleport to RoE areas is kinda nice, so I wish they'd open up more. And more Belligerency too, so you can do the crystal RoEs and such while having different scenery and more level ranges.
I've seen it said that some people don't want to be forced to play Monstrosity to get something for your main, and I respect that, but there are those of us who want to play it and would like a little more out of it, OR perhaps others would be more interested if the rewards were better (like I guess some people already efficiently farm sparks and don't need to do it as a MON).
Being able to party together and receive drops/gil outside of Belligerency would be nice, rather than making some special drop that forces people to feel like they HAVE to do it. Once you reach 99 and have leveled all the available creatures that you want, there's nothing left to do but farm sparks or work on instincts. So maybe let us get merits or something, or enter Adoulin areas for CP...

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Originally Posted by Mitruya

Yes, I agree,.. Once you reach 99 and have leveled all the available creatures that you want, there's nothing left to do but farm sparks or work on instincts. So maybe let us get merits or something, or enter Adoulin areas for CP...

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Replying to only part of your post but yeah they could also add a cop/job points system for playing Lv. 99 monstrosity characters some how while getting more points quickly faster than you would on a normal 99 job and have the option to place/stick those points on a certain 99 job you have leveled would be yet another interesting way to earn the points to be used to increase/unlock certain job ability or stats that is done through those two systems we both have mentioned in our posts. ;-)

Yeah, depending on when/if they ever add more families, at some point you'll be done leveling all you want, so then what would be the point of continuing? Other than just running around as your favorite creature to get sparks. No one really bothers with the PvP system, you can't buddy up with a friend for kicks and giggles, and you can't farm anything (except crystals and -ites in Belligerency) or make gil (unless you convert sparks and of course, NPC the crystals/-ites). They could at least give us merits. As of now it's just "something to do" if you're casual and not involved in anything else.
And yet they'd rather focus on monster rearing in the Garden. It was cute at first but ... meh.

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Originally Posted by Mitruya

Once you reach 99 and have leveled all the available creatures that you want, there's nothing left to do but farm sparks or work on instincts. So maybe let us get merits or something, or enter Adoulin areas for CP...

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Oh trust me you get all your instincts waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before leveling everything. Sparks is nice though no where near as fast as fighting in SoA zones... just it's a tad easier and you don't need gearing

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Originally Posted by Selindrile

Even with a 1000x experience event monstrosity wouldn't be productive ingame >.> because monstrosity has no rewards that tie in to your main character, which is why despite it being an extremely fun system, I, and many others have given it up altogether.

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Productive as in getting goals accomplished, not productive as in building my character or whatnot. Many of my goals are pointless, like some NMs I want to kill and I don't care about the drops, but it's still a list of goals that I want to accomplish (like finishing some trial weapons, even though they could not be more useless atm.)

hopefully logic prevails and they don't want yet another time sink to be left in the dust and convert this into a useable role by allowing skills or stats learned inside this state to be useable like being turned to a new job like on ff6 gau or let stats show through as merits.

Monstrosity will only become popular with introduction of endgame rewards, like equipment and such. I think a storyline that extends past the introduction storyline would also make the free add-on more worth the time. Like a boss you can fight that you don't claim, allowing several monsters to join the fray, as well as monstrosity specific battlefields you can only enter as a monster.

So are we ever going to get any more monster families? Are we ever going to get to be able to party up with other monsters? Are we gonna see ANY new content at all with this? We deserve some answers. Camate, if you stumble upon this, PLEASE try to get some word for us!

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Originally Posted by LCofPandy

So are we ever going to get any more monster families? Are we ever going to get to be able to party up with other monsters? Are we gonna see ANY new content at all with this? We deserve some answers. Camate, if you stumble upon this, PLEASE try to get some word for us!

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I'm Just going to say it, it may not be calmate who stumbles upon back by this thread but it maybe one of the many other's working in the area of the threads instead who step by to give a response. Yeah it would be cool but monster rearing still seems ti be the thing at the moment and who knows maybe with our monster rearing pets we could become as one in monstrosity thus we'd be more less raising our own monstrosity creature before hand into well..I'll leave it up to the imagination. ;)

Well we got an answer through the GE interview with SE. Basically it was put to the wayside so focus on the SoA storyline and missions could be done. Doesn't look promising either. Here's the quote: Mizuki Ito: This issue is not unique to Monstrosity. A great number of personnel were working on the conclusion to the Seekers of Adoulin missions, and expansions to a variety of content have been put on the back burner. Though the missions themselves have concluded in the November patch, there are still some threads left unconnected, and we will introduce further quests and Seekers of Adoulin-related battle content in the months ahead that will take a deeper look into these stories. As such, we have been unable to prioritize Monstrosity. Scheduled high priority content will be released bit by bit, and once that has been done, there is a possibility that Monstrosity may rise in the priority list. What worries is me is he say "may" rise in priority. So there's a good chance it's dead content. But that's just the pessimist in me..

I'm frustrated they left this content unfinished while giving things like crossover events and Monster Rearing higher priority. The biggest slap is not getting any answers AT ALL on the official forum. Why did we have to find this out second-hand?

Very good question. My main feeling is that they gave this up for monster rearing. Sorry but I barely use my garden as is and I find more joy out of playing as the monster than just seeing it as a cute cuddly be benefactor to content I don't even use. Hopefully come January or February they'll bring attention to this content but I'm not holding my breath...

Nah man, at this point Monstrosity is SO dead we don't even get to be ghosts or skeletons, just butthurt. They were even like "yeah uh after we're done masturbating MAYBE we'll go back to adding those nice things we said we were adding." I feel bad for the Monstrosity creator too, he went out of his way to make this well thought out, thoroughly enjoyable experience and now the whole thing just gets shoved aside and shit on? I'm gonna go to the quality of life suggestions thread and ask if they can put F**k You! by Cee Lo Green as my title music because that's how I'm gonna feel about this game now.

Yeah what really grinds my gears is there are things they said they were already developing and planning on adding when monstrosity came out 2 years ago that they still haven't added. And let's not even get started on tangible rewards. yeah playing on monster itself is fun but gets really repetitive after awhile not to mention I capped everything in the system like a year ago. Heck just an uncapped pvp zone would be nice

Man I don't understand why this isn't updated, I saw that interview and its sad. I had so much fun when this first came out, how hard is it to add party mode at least? I can't imagine it being that hard to add.

i dont get it either bring out the other classes and party mode, then people will care about it.

people dont care about it because its pain in butt to lvl just give us party mode and at least one of the beastmen jobs lol

hate break it to you SE, Nobody gives a Shit about SoA missions or content outside of delve. you coulda shelved THAT and nobdy would have cared

In reality, they could've completely ignored the entire idea for monster rearing and just continued devoting that manpower to Monstrosity. I know of literally no one, not one person, who does that shit, and it added nothing new to the game that was worth caring about. Monstrosity was a much more interesting system and had a lot more people interested in it, yet for whatever fkin reason it got dropped and that trash got picked up... -_-;

That's entirely true. Mog Gardens in general has been kind of a waste of our time. If they had left the moogles and replaced the rest with a single NPC that animation locks you for 5 minutes and gives you 30k then it would have saved a lot of dev time investment into content that no one gives a shit about.

I'm glad I'm not the only one frustrated by this (see my other thread).

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Originally Posted by Mitruya

I'm glad I'm not the only one frustrated by this (see my other thread).

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I found your post in a round about way but thought i'd just include the link in making the browse over to it quicker for your post if you wouldn't mind it, here it is on the "Link"

To be honest, after messing with Monster Rearing for the first time a few days ago, I've come to the conclusion that the problem is not that it's a thing and they keep working on it, but that it's a thing that they completely wasted on Mog Gardens instead of tying it with Monstrosity. Like seriously, imagine being able to fill your empty Feretory with monster buddies that you raise and gain items/SP Gobbiedial Keys, instincts, infamy, and/or EXP/CP from as they grow and having the act of raising a monster send your Monipulator into "mama bear mode" which makes you stronger out in the field. They could even add drops to Belligerency or just in general that helps grow monster pals. This shit is just tragic man, here you have this golden goose of an event and you're just gonna sit there and tell me you're tired of me enjoying your game. You don't need my subscription money or my praise, all you need is your Mog Garden and stupid pixel board bullshit. Thanks XI devs, I'm really feeling it.

I want to hit the like button 1000 times. This, so much. So much opportunity wasted. They released the content before it was completely fleshed out, made promises about what was to come ... a year or so later they tell us that Garden and crossover stuff takes higher priority. While not taking advantage of tying things together, or doing something awesome for Halloween.

I still love the idea of tieing this into bst and being able to jug the monsters you get

And this new Chacharoon's Cheer thing ... will the benefits extend to Monstrosity? Like the exp bonus, for example.
Also, how about being able to buy baby monsters of the creatures we've unlocked with infamy, for our Garden?
It's disheartening to see more dev effort put into enhancing Gardens, than finishing out the Monstrosity content.

Here's an idea SE, how about tying stuff like this Chacharoon's Cheer thing into Monstrosity. Ya know, the whole, "give-us-a-reason-to-do-content" thing.

I find it hilarious that they added something like that to a system that no one likes while failing to provide any real normal-play reward for a system that people love.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

I find it hilarious that they added something like that to a system that no one likes while failing to provide any real normal-play reward for a system that people love.

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They probably figure if they do plenty of things to it over time it will be loved more then monstrosity as we are displeased or not liked of monster rearing for crafters for this reason is an more important to work on it more then monstrosity, I guess? the player vs monstrosity player needs worked on, the monstrosity character vs. monstrosity character needs better worked on its implementation to work when out and about to actually being able to engage each other too are just a few things i think that could be very well worked on as well.

Is it bad that every time I read Monster Rearing my heart skips a beat just because I see 'Monster' written in an update note...?

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Originally Posted by Gameesh

Is it bad that every time I read Monster Rearing my heart skips a beat just because I see 'Monster' written in an update note...?

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Don't feel bad. I have a similar issue. Hell, screenshots that show nothing but monsters often do that to me just because I look and think ":O is that Monst!? :D" only to be disappointed moments later.

Monstrosity definitely needs an update. New species would be something (and hopefully easy), but what it really needs is real-game relevance.

I'd just be happy with new families, really. I continue to bemoan the fact that Khimaira was not introduced when we got other biggies like Orthus, Behemoth, etc. But I have also liked or posted suggestions for adding things or tying together content.
And there's quite a few players who have commented that they would try it if it had more relevance. I don't see the relevance in Monster Rearing. At least I'm actively doing something in Monstrosity (though I really need to pull myself away from it so I can start the CP grind, lol).

Khimaira is Arcana type, and Arcana type hasn't been introduced yet.

I meant that a lot of the big bosses in the game are represented in Monstrosity except for Khimaira. (and the dragons) So I'm disappointed the Arcana family hasn't been released yet to kind of balance that out.

I really don't understand SE. They develop a system that nobody wanted or asked for, which some people actually liked, then completely abandon it. Why keep shooting yourself in the foot?

Lol so they tell us no time to work on monstrosity a system people seem to actually like if they fixed it. But yay add a real reward to monster rearing something I don't know anyone cared about for more than a few days

This isn't the first time SE dropped the ball like this though.
Remember Pankration? Those were the days...
I had such a great time with that content for a good few weeks. The music in the Colliseum is one of the best in the game!
Then people stopped doing it due to lack of updates and it faded into obscurity.
The same will happen to Monstrosity if nothing is added in the next few months. Only a few die-hard fans will level the monsters till there is nothing left to level...

I want to Thank the Dev Team. For all the wonderful updates. I realize you have alot of content your working on. Here are just a few suggestions from me that may have already been made in the past but I wanted to toss them out for the dev's to consider.

1. Monstrosity Besiged!!! and Monstrosity WKR style fights. PVP was a nice idea but I think allowing everyone to gang up on one big nasty NM or a group of Enemy NMs is actually funner. At least within this particular game.

2.Give us drops via this system. Mog house furnishings, Chocobo upgrade items for our pet chocobos that have lost all use, IE. saddles chocobo outfits, yada and maybe open all areas even dungeons to chocobos. We have super long lasting sneak and invisible just give us a solid use for the chocobos again and use monstrosity to do it with.

3. Max out the levels of our monstrosities, allow some Mon VS Mon action to happen in the pankration pits ? again allow for some unique outfits or housing items or chocobo items to be obtained from some mon versus mon action.

Thank you again for a fun system please dont let it fade away. revamp some of the old stuff and use monstrosity to do it? would be great.:D

Could someone from Square Enix elaborate on just one simple thing:

Are there any plans for Monstrosity this year? New families, adjustments, being able to get merit points. Anything at all?

Thanks in advance.