More nerfs for War & Ukkos.

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Originally Posted by Brolic

what's there difference? what's non empy dd's being invited to anyway? other than to th

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Originally Posted by Brolic

seems fair

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tell that to WARs that stick to their Relic since 4 years... Seriously Ukonvarsa can DIAF

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Originally Posted by Catmato

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ah so a bunch of level 75(or is that 65?) content and worms

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Originally Posted by Brolic

ah so a bunch of level 75(or is that 65?) content and worms

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Yes.

This isn't BG. You don't have to pretend everyone does VW as their only event and that you automatically get an empy when you hit 85.

Also, worms?

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Originally Posted by Damane

tell that to WARs that stick to their Relic since 4 years... Seriously Ukonvarsa can DIAF

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This.

I would rather they give WAR the traits and have Ukko's at the original nerfed values instead of them punishing all WAR's for Ukko's being overpowered in their eyes. All they do by removing/not adding the traits and having a less nerfed Ukko's is shift the balance more towards Ukon than Bravura when Ukon is already better than Bravura.

And I say this as someone who has access to both a Bravura and an Ukon.

Or you know, they could not go against their word and be liars by nerfing at all since they said they weren't doing that and moving forward would focus on exclusively buffs and moving the overall power level above 75.

I'd like to take this moment to extend my lulz to any war who supported the Ukon nerf but doesn't support this one.

Please adjust Ukko's Fury back to @100tp 15% @200tp 25% and @300tp 40%. There's no reason to nerf a job over one weaponskill, it seems really lazy to me and won't help balance at all.

The only warriors that will be worth a damn will be the overpowered Ukonvasara warrior's who your trying to appease so you don't lose 2500+ customers who are upset about this weaponskill being nerfed vs. the 9000+ customers who have warrior at 90+ who will all lose out on the enhancements to double attack and crit hit dmg because ukkos fury had to be re-adjusted to appease the 2500+ Ukonvasara user's.

If everyone read and posted in these forums you'd see real quick the vast majority is in favor of nerfing ukko's fury not warrior.

If this is how the team decides to handle things since the community can talk and influence them now then we're in for alot more nerfs cause theres alot of people upset over their job not being #1 DD, not to mention how monotonous the game will become with only one worthwhile weaponskill per job.

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Originally Posted by Habiki

Please adjust Ukko's Fury back to @100tp 15% @200tp 25% and @300tp 40%. There's no reason to nerf a job over one weaponskill, it seems really lazy to me and won't help balance at all.

The only warriors that will be worth a damn will be the overpowered Ukonvasara warrior's who your trying to appease so you don't lose 2500+ customers who are upset about this weaponskill being nerfed vs. the 9000+ customers who have warrior at 90+ who will all lose out on the enhancements to double attack and crit hit dmg because ukkos fury had to be re-adjusted to appease the 2500+ Ukonvasara user's.

If everyone read and posted in these forums you'd see real quick the vast majority is in favor of nerfing ukko's fury not warrior.

If this is how the team decides to handle things since the community can talk and influence them now then we're in for alot more nerfs cause theres alot of people upset over their job not being #1 DD, not to mention how monotonous the game will become with only one worthwhile weaponskill per job.

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your wrong

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Originally Posted by Habiki

Please adjust Ukko's Fury back to @100tp 15% @200tp 25% and @300tp 40%. There's no reason to nerf a job over one weaponskill, it seems really lazy to me and won't help balance at all.

The only warriors that will be worth a damn will be the overpowered Ukonvasara warrior's who your trying to appease so you don't lose 2500+ customers who are upset about this weaponskill being nerfed vs. the 9000+ customers who have warrior at 90+ who will all lose out on the enhancements to double attack and crit hit dmg because ukkos fury had to be re-adjusted to appease the 2500+ Ukonvasara user's.

If everyone read and posted in these forums you'd see real quick the vast majority is in favor of nerfing ukko's fury not warrior.

If this is how the team decides to handle things since the community can talk and influence them now then we're in for alot more nerfs cause theres alot of people upset over their job not being #1 DD, not to mention how monotonous the game will become with only one worthwhile weaponskill per job.

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I'd like option C. Please go fix all the other crap wrong with this game, and make some new content while your at it, then, maybe you could consider job adjustments that aren't in the form of buffs.

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

Or you know, they could not go against their word and be liars by nerfing at all since they said they weren't doing that and moving forward would focus on exclusively buffs and moving the overall power level above 75.

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I don't recall them ever saying there would never be another nerf. Derp.

So let me see if I have everything straight here....

Up through WotG, warriors are one of, if not the most popular and viable jobs to play in XI.

Abyssea is released with the level cap increase and warrior still retains it's viability. If anything it is increased due to their proficiency with the proc system. Not only that but with the release of Empyrean weapons, warrior becomes the clear choice for top DD by a longshot.

SE finally gets around to adjusting the Empyrean WS to bring Ukon warriors down to a normal level.

Instead of being reasonable about the change, warriors cry rivers about their slight epeen shrinkage even though they still maintain a healthy lead.

Because of this, SE re-buffs Ukko's but nerfs all warriors JA to prove my point for me?


I spent all this time trying to point out that the WS was the problem and NOT the job, caught backlash for being anti-warrior and then SE comes through and trumps me in the trolling department by nerfing all warriors. Well played SE, well played... I concede.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

Two days ago: "Haha you guys are getting nerfed by 10% on a WS you put a lot of work into lolol. Stop complaining it's only 10%"

Today: "You are going to nerf us >1% by taking away a job trait we never actually had in the firstplace!?!?!?!?!?!!?!? FUUUCCCCKKK YOUUUUUUUUU!!!!"

You guys can blame the complainers all you want but it's entirely possible that if some of you spent less time posting "delicious tear" comments and rallied against any and all nerfs as a community you wouldn't have lost CAIII. Probably not but you never know~ All nerfs suck and just open the door to more nerfs and that should have been the message we sent.

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Nothing has changed. WAR tears are still delicious.

Also, this.

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Originally Posted by Tagrineth

I don't recall them ever saying there would never be another nerf. Derp.

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HURHUR DERP LOL ^____________^

They said moving forward they'd focus on increasing player's power level and not decreasing it.

SO KAWAII UGUU~ DESU xD nyan lol

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

They said moving forward they'd focus on increasing player's power level and not decreasing it.

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They overshot their target by quite a bit with Ukko's. That sort of thing happens when you increase the cap 5 separate times over the course of a year and a half.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

They overshot their target by quite a bit with Ukko's. That sort of thing happens when you increase the cap 5 separate times over the course of a year and a half.

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Nah. If anything I feel level 99 isn't crazy enough, especially considering everyone is operating under the logic of in abyssea/with atmacite rather than actual power level.

Alright Warrior's: I'll save you from the nerfs. CMs can you show Tanaka the following please? http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...UnkaisFury.png

Hmm trade useless Job Traits for better Ukko's {Yes Please}

wtf come on what war is really going to benefit from another DA tier?

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Originally Posted by Catmato

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Thats a joke right ?
EXP/Abyssea - you don't need more DA/crit dmg, atmas use them :)

The rest is just so stupidly easy to do i wont even bother adressing why you dont need anymore DA/Crit dmg

2% Double Attack Serious business.

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

2% Double Attack Serious business.

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careful you might hurt their feelings

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Originally Posted by Camate

I wanted to let you know that there have been some updates in regards to the information we posted last week.

We mentioned that only the critical hit bonus effect increase would be excluded from the adjustments; however, we are now planning to put off the increase to the rate of double attack effect as well.

We feel it would be preferable to receive feedback specifically on the adjustments made to Ukko’s Fury without adjusting job abilities due to the fact that you can get very close to a 50% double attack rate via job traits and equipment.

Due to this, the enhancement of both the critical hit bonus and double attack effect will be left out from the version update. However, we will make a final decision based on the feedback we receive from the test server update set to take place in the latter half of the week.

We apologize for the constant state of flux when it comes to all of the changes, but please understand that we’re going through testing and adjustments daily.

※For the additional information on the weapon skill adjustments please look here.

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I'll trade you those two enhancements for that whole "Change Damage Type" JA you guys announce a while back...I was slightly exited about that and the possibilities it held. Hopefully the plans for that new ability wasn't scrapped.

Other than that, conclude the test on Ukko's Fury for now and jump on some wonderful ideas of how to create new ways for other jobs to deal nice damage and such por favor.