Port Jeuno congestion...

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Originally Posted by kingfury

>< Okay, do the emergency stuff for now, but after the Devs are done with that, try solving it by overhauling the Seacomment system we have. Damn my lack of Japanese!

•Players can use event-specific shouts if you modify the current "Search Comment" system.

Example: /Seacomshout [EXP] » looking for members! 3/6
(This shout will only show in the chat log of players that want to hear about EXP events.)

•Attempted Japanese Translation ><

あなたが現在の"検索のコメント"システムを変更した場合、プレイヤーは、イベント固有の叫び声を使用することができます。

例。：/ Seacomshout[EXP]>メンバーを探して！ 3/6
（この叫びは、EXPのイベントについて聞いてみたいプレイヤーのチャットログに表示されます。）

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Thats not the first japanese post asking about using an PHP esque array (also found in python iirc) to alter the yells... though the question is, would SE be able to make such an array system with their current code with out over extended the 3 guys they feed cocopuffs >.>

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Originally Posted by Edyth

[*]Please, no more taxes, ever. Auction house prices have already inflated through the roof. We don't need more gil taken from us.

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It looks like you don't understand the reasons behind inflation. It's because there's too much gil coming into the system and not enough being taken out. The more gil exists in the game, the less it's worth hence inflation. Bringing back taxes will lower inflation not increase it.

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Originally Posted by Frapp

I've played around with the idea of a Vana'delian bank of sorts that would work like the Auction House, but deal exclusively in special currencies, tabs, Therion Ichor, etc. Perhaps the Bank could work similar to the Beastman Seal brothers (their names escape me at the moment) to trade currencies for other forms of currency, or for even an adjustable rate of gil. Enough people are trying to sell their currency, and are doing so in the most populated safe zone on their server. If they could easily sell the currency, there might be less people AFK Bazaaring their currencies, and thus less congestion.

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Bumping this idea for the Community representatives to read. This would be great. I spend more than half my current daily playtime trying to bazaar Dynamis currency to buy another type that I need for my relic weapon. And I am not the only one who does this, by far. I think this idea would get rid of a lot of idle bazaars and thus congestion, while also making the game a lot more handy and fun. I really hope something like this happens.

i know what we need a bazzar zone in jeuno lets call it the Jeuno Bazzar

lets get get a zone ware off of port jeuno ware bazzar's have a 0 tax but put a 10% tax in the rest of jeuno

I've always thought it would be great to just receive and reply to shouts while your in your mog house in Jeuno area or Whitegate and to atleast be able to toggle it off or on while your in there

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Originally Posted by Choerilos

Bumping this idea for the Community representatives to read. This would be great. I spend more than half my current daily playtime trying to bazaar Dynamis currency to buy another type that I need for my relic weapon. And I am not the only one who does this, by far. I think this idea would get rid of a lot of idle bazaars and thus congestion, while also making the game a lot more handy and fun. I really hope something like this happens.

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Thanks for the shout out. I appreciate it. :D

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I would like to take a moment and elaborate on my previous post and add some other suggestions for relieving the Port Jeuno congestion. It is my hope that the developers would take these ideas into consideration.

Going back to my point on the AFK Bazaar situation. One point, as mentioned previously, was to implement a Vana'delian Bank would facilitate the selling and purchasing of non-Gil currencies. There could even be a "Safety Deposit Box" type of item similar to the Moogle Porter Claim Slips for people choosing to store currencies for later use.

The way I see it, the Bank would work like this:
Choose to either Store, Sell, Buy, or Trade currency
1) Store currency: Use the Deposit Box item.
2) Sell currency: Offer any number (singles, full stacks, or incomplete stacks) of currency for a single price point.
3) Buy currency: Purchase currency at the requested rate, if available.
4) Trade currency: Offer one type of currency for another, if available. In order to keep things fair, restrict this to same-event currencies only. (I think this would only come into play for Dynamis).

For Buying and Selling currency - similar to listing something in your own bazaar, list the price you would want for a single unit. This will allow flexibility in allowing people to sell exactly what they have and allow people to buy exactly what they need.

The system would then function like the Auction House in regards to selling at cost, lowest to highest, without revealing the true price of the listing.

Another point to alleviate AFK Bazaars is a rather simple request. Make any Bazaarable item, sans currency for reasons outlined above, sellable on the Auction House. There is no reason why there needs to be a "Black Market" of sorts to sell items like Kirin's Osode.

As an aside, there are comments regarding levying taxes on Bazaars in Jeuno again. I don't intend to turn this into an economics debate, but if it is necessary, tax the items posted to the Auction House as a sort of "restricted" item fee, and/or against the buyer. Simply levying a tax on all Bazaars is simply going to push the Bazaars outside of the taxed zones, and pushing the congestion somewhere else, and eliminating the point of taxing bazaars in the first place.

Conclusion (or tl;dr): Helping players facilitate buying and selling Bazaar-only items will help alleviate congestion in popular zones by removing a majority of the players with a Bazaar while AFK.

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Another point being mentioned here on the forums (as well as in my previous post) is about how Jeuno is difficult to travel to. I feel this is also causing some congestion, as people would rather have easy access to a popular hub zone than have access to other things available in a home nation.

I have a few simple ideas that may help.

1) Airships: Departure intervals and travel times are too long. Shorten these times to help facilitate travel to and from Jeuno. Increase fees if necessary.

2) Direct travel to Abyssean Cavernous Maws: Right now, the only method is to use Horst and the others to do so. This requires traveling to a city and using them. Instead, allow one to use Cruor to purchase an item to allow travel from the field. The item could function similar to Magian Specs. Use it, pop a book, select your destination, bam!
Cruor cost could be equivalent for the amount of charges on the item, or charge cruor per use.

While this doesn't help for parties requiring a Job Change, every little bit counts, right?

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That is all I have for now. Thank you all for reading. Again, I hope the development team considers these ideas.

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Originally Posted by Unleashhell

Also why not have a main bazaar hub similar to the Auction House. Same categories as the auction house but when you look for items you will see the name of the item, person selling and the price.

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This is a good idea and theory on paper but they tried this in FFXIV. I'm not sure if you tried that game yet but that system doesn't really work that well. Nice idea tho but in practice it doesn't seem to work. In any event what it comes down to is lazyness. The search functions with comments is a great way to get parties or whatever your seeking to do but the problem is that no one likes to search threw all the ppl looking for groups to read comments. /yell is a great idea but I think should be designated to cities or make it were all the teleport moogles to aby or whatever is in all city ports and you can do a /yellport from one city and it shows up in all city ports? Another thing for jeuno would be to either tax port jeuno bazaars. Make it so the lower or upper jeuno are the only bazaar places and port jeuno is just that for porting around other areas.

The congestion isn't even just because of bazaars, it's also largely because that's where most people gather and thus where most people shout to find other people. so people recruiting for events or people looking to join events tend to loiter in the zone... (You remember Lag Gate?)Also, people running afk bazaars generally want to be where they have the highest potential consumer traffic,so they also park there. Implementing the /yell command was definitely a step in the right direction, and I think expanding upon that idea may help far more than simply re-introducing taxes to alleviate congestion. Being able to view shouts/yells from inside one's mog house, as well as being able to view yells from different cities means that people would no longer have an excuse to all gather in one zone in order to group up or find people. One way to take this a step further even would be to implement the ability to invite people to party/alliance from within different main cities as well. In regards to people running bazaars trying to find the consumers, perhaps implementing some way for people to use the /search command to browse what people have in their bazaar and at what price and where to find said bazaar? These changes would, in my opinion, do far more to alleviate congestion anywhere than simply removing the auction house and re-introducing taxes as they remove the excuse or need to gather together as one large mass anywhere.

I don't think bazaars are really the problem, rather the sheer amount of features that Port Jeuno has compared to almost any other zone.

1. Airships.
2. The only access to Qufim Island.
3. Abyssea Teleports.
4. Beastmen/Kindred seal storage & conversion.
5. Chocobos.
6. Synergy Furnaces.
7. Probably something else I'm forgetting.

The zone was clearly designed to be a hub; if the FFXI infrastructure can't support it anymore you either need to a) redesign the infrastructure or b) start removing the reasons people gather in the zone.

Btw, I know the FFXI dev team is down to a skeleton crew (thanks mostly to FFXIV I'd imagine) but from the various statements released by the devs it really sounds like there's just two guys in a basement working on it >.> You might want to think about how that information is published because it's not exactly filling us with hope for FFXI's future.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Due to the fact that Port Jeuno congestion has not been completely erased since the implementation of the /yell feature, we will be looking into the implementation of the below:

• Re-installment of bazaar taxes
• Temporary suspension of the auction house
  *Both are limited to Port Jeuno.

We are aware that this will create some inconveniences, so we will be closely monitoring feedback on this and other aspects of the change.

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Hey cool if they put that tax back into town then Rol-mart would make its way back to town yay :D