Arch Dynamis lords difficultly.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Because WAR sucks and drk is not a job, nevermind that fact that high% ODD at 300% tp strongely favors monk...

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DRK is actually pretty damn good against ADL because it requires minimal effort/gear to put out decent numbers. You could roll up with Hoarfrost + SAM sub + an Icarus wing and put in 10-15k damage just simply from going Last Resort > Souleater > Sekka > Resolution > Resolution > Icarus Wing > Resolution and nothing more than that, so like 10 seconds. And that's without having access to something like Apoc/Ragna/etc. (But does assume COR + BRD buffs)

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Originally Posted by Yinnyth

No, earlier you were claiming:


6 real DDs can get him down to nearly 0% HP before he splits. Your claim not mine. The post of yours I keep quoting implies that ADL splits into clones exactly 30 seconds after he's popped regardless of how low his HP gets, and goes on to suggest that any decent group should be able to nearly kill ADL before he gets the chance to split.

Your claim NOW is that it's HP based as well as time based. Your claim THEN was it had nothing to do with HP. Thus my indignation when you claimed:

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I claimed and still claim that it will pop at exactly 30 seconds. I'm not claiming "now" that it is HP based because I already explicitely mentionned in the original post that you wouldn't kill within 30 seconds because the first clone is obligatory. So In the post I assumed it was 5% because my own witness off JP alliances wrecking it showed that they cloned it with little HP, hard to tell how much since I don't use windower cheat mode. So replace 5% with whatever the% is if it even exists. Because so far I don't see any evidence, just assumptions, that it is % based. What's certain is that it will clone himself at the 30 seconds mark if its HP is >= 45% and that the next clones are not time based.

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Originally Posted by Soidisant

DRK is actually pretty damn good against ADL because it requires minimal effort/gear to put out decent numbers. You could roll up with Hoarfrost + SAM sub + an Icarus wing and put in 10-15k damage just simply from going Last Resort > Souleater > Sekka > Resolution > Resolution > Icarus Wing > Resolution and nothing more than that, so like 10 seconds. And that's without having access to something like Apoc/Ragna/etc. (But does assume COR + BRD buffs)

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You cannot use more than one WS past the first one at start because then it splits. After the split what DD you got is irrelevant what matters is that they got TP to finish them off. Based on this any DD has its place in an alliance, but that's not what I'm targetting, I want the minimal amount of persons.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

You cannot use more than one WS past the first one at start because then it splits. After the split what DD you got is irrelevant what matters is that they got TP to finish them off. Based on this any DD has its place in an alliance, but that's not what I'm targetting, I want the minimal amount of persons.

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You are an outright idiot. I just did this fight yesterday and it didn't split after my first weapon skill and in fact split around 30%. I guess you say that melee do 15k weapon skills now which is LOL unless all the warriors are using mighty strikes w/resolution. I can see now why you are considered a moron.

You are an outright idiot because you are not following the discussion. The reason it will split before you have tp for the second ws is that with an ally it dies too fast so if it's not your case, get better DDs. Personally when I go pimp MNKx2 and gimp MNkx2 as DD it splits when everyone has done 2 WS and is about to do the 3rd - we only go with 6 though.



I wonder where I said a melee does 15k WS lol. I did say that my melees do 16.5k total damage before split though, but that is because we don't suck.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

It's fun to see how nynja is be ridiculised in the relic thread where someone is explaining him even NQ DL is duo-able.

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who said its duoable? They said they did it trio spamming stun..."and it should be doable mnk + healer".

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

Animated weapons and Hydras were not soloable.

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Thats debatable...however they are easily duoable and I dont think anyones going to oppose to that statement.



do you have a video yet pchan, or not?

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Originally Posted by Soidisant

DRK is actually pretty damn good against ADL because it requires minimal effort/gear to put out decent numbers. You could roll up with Hoarfrost + SAM sub + an Icarus wing and put in 10-15k damage just simply from going Last Resort > Souleater > Sekka > Resolution > Resolution > Icarus Wing > Resolution

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

You are an outright idiot because you are not following the discussion. The reason it will split before you have tp for the second ws is that with an ally it dies too fast so if it's not your case, get better DDs.

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Yeah, clearly HE'S the one who isn't following the coversation. Remind me again- how long does it take to build up TP after you WS with 300 TP while sekkanoki is active?

you people cry too much, go back to WoW u baby.
ADL is not super hard, Just have to be GOOD at your jobs and understand how to play. Have gone 10/10 and only needed alex 1st time to see how it would go. I feel sorry for you if you do not understand how to play Better than an RMT.

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Originally Posted by Manicora

you people cry too much, go back to WoW u baby.
ADL is not super hard, Just have to be GOOD at your jobs and understand how to play. Have gone 10/10 and only needed alex 1st time to see how it would go. I feel sorry for you if you do not understand how to play Better than an RMT.

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Is this the part where we're suppose to ask "What was your Strategy for killing it without PD Zerging?" and you tell us "I'm not saying" or something >_>?

Alsor: No ones claiming Arch Dynamis Lord is hard, They're saying its stupid that the fight can be done perfectly and still relies on a dumb-luck factor because of how the NM works... Splitting In two, three, four, etc.