Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

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Originally Posted by Topdogg

Yes but this is a topic on exp leeching.

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It doesn't particularly matter, because the methods you are suggesting affect more than just exp parties. They affect everyone in Abyssea. Because it is impossible for an automated server-side mechanic to determine the difference between someone who is exp'ing, someone who is killing NMs, and someone who is just going to bed with 1,000+ minutes, you're not really addressing anything.

From what one view the dislike of leeching is because of pride of one or more people who actually leveled a job to 75 or 90 and knew how to use the job properly instead of new people burning it to level 90 in level 10-30 gear. Also the whole point of being the main DD, main or sometimes the only healer, or the only person creating azure light and everyone else is sleep or afking on a level 30 job. For those people who afk too long...say the 30 minute wait, let them get auto-booted out with their time in tact. Maybe even put a Zzzzz animation above them like the sleeping mobs have in most zones at night/morning and have them lose their exp chain after 10-15 minutes afk. Honestly you cant get rid of leeching because its an efficient way to gain exp, despite the downside of being 200 levels below your skill caps and pissing off other already-disgusted veterans. The level cap for entry was level 30 for some odd reason. Clearly a level 30-60 person couldn't hold their own if they tried to solo (im not wagering some people couldn't), so just as ninja is a supreme tank now, leeching was destined to be an inevitable existence within the game.

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Originally Posted by CaptnChizzle

From what one view the dislike of leeching is because of pride of one or more people who actually leveled a job to 75 or 90 and knew how to use the job properly instead of new people burning it to level 90 in level 10-30 gear. .

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that point also hurts the economy. No one crafts gear anymore because no one buys it. I seen a new player once, a level 90 WHM on a 55 ish PLD gearing in cheap MP rings and such, and other cheap items that where not ment for his job. he told me it was from having no gil ...

I had to craft all my items for my bow because no one makes that lower level gear, then I spent like a week trying to sell the level 12 bow I HQed ><

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

It doesn't particularly matter, because the methods you are suggesting affect more than just exp parties. They affect everyone in Abyssea. Because it is impossible for an automated server-side mechanic to determine the difference between someone who is exp'ing, someone who is killing NMs, and someone who is just going to bed with 1,000+ minutes, you're not really addressing anything.

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With NM's you're always moving around unless you're one of those who sits back and does nothing while everyone else does the work.

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Originally Posted by Kuishen

Your signature makes anything you say invalid.

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Yeah, I should add some hot pink and red in there somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Topdogg

With NM's you're always moving around unless you're one of those who sits back and does nothing while everyone else does the work.

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It's not uncommon to sit idle while camping something like Gukumatz/Amun, or to take a break and go afk for 30-60 minutes when you have 500+ minutes in between NMs.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

It's not uncommon to sit idle while camping something like Gukumatz/Amun, or to take a break and go afk for 30-60 minutes when you have 500+ minutes in between NMs.

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As previously stated in a post, auto-run into a wall would fix the time out issue. On your other statement, Most/All NM's are a 10-15 min repop.

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Originally Posted by Topdogg

Back way before abyssea, when ppl had to afk, for even 10 mins, they would just leave the party. This is how it should be now but the exp is too good in somes eyes.

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This isn't true and you know it. This whole implied argument of "Abyssea is ruining the game!" is stupid. Before that it was SMN burns, and Bird Camp, and so on and so on. Give it a freaking rest.

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Originally Posted by Topdogg

As previously stated in a post, auto-run into a wall would fix the time out issue. On your other statement, Most/All NM's are a 10-15 min repop.

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They are, and that assumes the time out is 30 minutes or greater. Also, any Abyssea leech can just autorun into a wall too. Honestly, auto-timeouts don't help anything at all.

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Originally Posted by Topdogg

Yeah, I should add some hot pink and red in there somewhere.

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You misinterpret my meaning. Based on your sig (and your ffxiah profile) you have absolutely no knowledge of how the game works or how to gear yourself, therefore nothing you say can have any validity to it.