Same-Sex Marriages

Definitely not the most eloquent way to lay down an argument, but I agree wholeheartedly with the concept. FFXI should allow any two people/characters to marry, regardless of gender. This argument is everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

I totally want same sex marriages too ;o

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yus! i cant marry my boyfriend (who is a mithra too) bc of this -.-'
we do wanna marry, so pls!!!

I would support same sex marriage but I'm sorry, sex is never the same after marriage.

you have galka and mithra that presents a problem of trying to have oppsite sex only, that and there is other agurments for doing what the OP has said. that subject I do not want to tuch here.

All am i going to say is i support the OP and hope this can change

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Originally Posted by Meyi

It really is just a game. If you're concerned about having "wedding rings", level goldsmithing up to 28+ and make Silver Rings for one another with your signed names on them.

I'm a male, I play a boy taru. My girlfriend plays a boy taru too. I'm not offended that I can't marry her in game (although it does suck that some events we can't do together, like Valentine's day). It's just a game. I'm much more happy that I can be with her in real life and hold her at night.

That means much more to me than a pixelated ring.

That said, nobody should get their subligar in a bunch over this, because it is just a game. So what if some male Elvaan is chilling in Port Jeuno with a male name embedded in a ring. Does it really matter? Really? Your whole life is ruined? Your religion has been pooped upon? Said person supposedly needs a psycho-analysis now because their pixelated character is in love with another pixelated character that has the same gender symbol as them?

Okay.

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WIN! Ahaha...I must say this entire thread has become so warped and diluted from the original topic at hand. I agree with a bunch of other posters in here, saying that I would love to have gay marriage in game, but I don't think it's going to happen. This topic has been beat around to death since the dawn of marriage in FFXI. Very few people choose to use this service...I've only been to one or two in game weddings since I started in 2004. It's completely irrelevant. Do I think SE would receive extreme backlash by implementing this? Not really. Because FFXI is a dying MMORPG, no matter how many claim how many millions play this game. You don't see noobs in starter cities as much as you used to...SE aren't getting new players daily...and they're doing ANOTHER server merger, which proves that the FFXI population isn't where it used to be. I'm going off on another tangent though. FFXI is just a game, so let people have fun. Leave religion and all the other bullcrap to the side.

In my opinion, you will never truly end this conflict. It just reforms into another conflict. You add in same-sex marriage, you get people complaining about how wrong it is. You don't add it in and you get people complaining about homosexual rights, and it isn't right to be prejudiced. You take away marriage and it will form into a blame game between each side of whose fault it was that it was taken away. As much as I would love to see this conflict go away, I very much doubt it will. Not in our lifetime anyways.

I really wish this conflict would just stay out of game. How many people honestly play this game to hear about real life conflicts and drama? I know I don't. Going off topic and I will most likely start a thread on it. Answer me honestly, Why did any of you start playing this game?

I'll answer first: I joined because I am not only addicted to Final Fantasy games, but b/c I needed an escape from the drama of real life for a short period of time.

The most insightful reply in this thread so far, congratulations!

I support the OP. The opinions I've seen are how this will influence other people, but no matter how you look at it, even if 2 guys should not marry, it does not make them less gay, and I personally dont hide the fact that I am online.
The ceremony only occurs once ingame and most likely only friends who already know the couple is gay, are invited. If your against it, you just dont go to it, your probably not even going to be invited.

Everyone is different.

....really? This is a HUGE issue?

Honestly, the only thing 'lacking' privilege-wise from 'same-sex' marriage in this game anymore is the certificate itself.

GM's don't run the weddings anymore, so everyone's on equal terms ceremony-wise by having your friends perform the ceremonies, the full text for which is now available since ALL WEDDINGS ARE PLAYER-RUN NOW. As for attire, you can have someone show up in dinner hose and the other in a dress/tuxedo if you really wanted. (oh NOES no galkas in dresses.) You can even have the matrimony rings/bands signed for the same gender, just trade the unsigned version (craftable by Goldsmithing) to the person handing it over to the other so they can take a tornado crystal and sign the thing like the Castor/Pollux rings. I have seen this done before, it works.

I really don't see why this NEEDS to be a giant issue in a FANTASY game. An 'official' marriage in the game ONLY gets you a paper to put on the wall, and NOTHING else that can't be obtained otherwise. I can see why you'd complain about the certificate, but I can't see why you're complaining about not having things that are already available to you.

If it's no big deal then why not just change it? It's not like it's hard to remove a boolean variable check from source code.