Abyssea level cap

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Originally Posted by Kuishen

stop making retarded generalizations based on what maybe 100-300 people out of the 500,000

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So generalizations are bad, and pulling numbers out of nowhere is good. Gotcha.

Also, I don't get why you're mad. I'm agreeing that the OP is wrong and they shouldn't change the entry level for abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I'd rather they add options as opposed to take them away. Make FoV as good as GoV with the bonuses and whatnot. Add more pages to all zones that are just one mob type that's reasonable to fight. If you still lose some exp with your adventuring fellow out, maybe get rid of that like they did for BST pets, to make soloing a little nicer. People returning to the game and just starting seem pretty unhappy with the way exp is pre-75, but the answer is not to make the game more like it used to be. The only thing that was remotely better about exp in the old days was that there were more people your level trying to exp so the odds of finding anyone seeking to exp in Qufim with you were higher. The game needs to continue to adapt to it's smaller/top-heavy playerbase.

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I wish everyone who wanted more active ways to level to 90 had such a positive attitude and a desire to see FFXI adapt to it's player-base.

This post is way more constructive than the usual "THE GAME SHOULD NOT EVOLVE EVER BECAUSE THE T-REX DID NOT EVOLVE INTO ANYTHING AND THE T-REX IS MY FAVORITE DINOSAUR! BRING BACK 6-MAN PARTIES AND KILLING 985374 CRABS AND BIRDS!"

It would be great if Fields of Valor were made more like Grounds of Valor. I still have a level 10-ish job or two that I should level to 49, and that would make the process a lot less monotonous for me.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

So generalizations are bad, and pulling numbers out of nowhere is good. Gotcha.

Also, I don't get why you're mad. I'm agreeing that the OP is wrong and they shouldn't change the entry level for abyssea.

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I'm mad that this topic exists, not at you. Also I may have misread your post, and I apologize for that. I should have made it clear that that number was an example of a very very small minority that I mentioned in the beginning of my post. It's really not hard to see that these idiots that baw and pitchfork for getting rid of abyssea/raising abyssea level cap/whatever are very few in number and are a minority. So when somebody says something like all the returning or new players hate it, I like to point out that there is absolutely no proof for such a statement.

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Originally Posted by Kuishen

stuff..

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I think you guys were both saying the same thing. I agree with both of you.

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

I wish everyone who wanted more active ways to level to 90 had such a positive attitude and a desire to see FFXI adapt to it's player-base.

This post is way more constructive than the usual "THE GAME SHOULD NOT EVOLVE EVER BECAUSE THE T-REX DID NOT EVOLVE INTO ANYTHING AND THE T-REX IS MY FAVORITE DINOSAUR! BRING BACK 6-MAN PARTIES AND KILLING 985374 CRABS AND BIRDS!"

It would be great if Fields of Valor were made more like Grounds of Valor. I still have a level 10-ish job or two that I should level to 49, and that would make the process a lot less monotonous for me.

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Same here. I am leveling a new character at the moment, and I would love if it wasn't just a giant frigging grind. Why are all those books telling me to kill 2 different mobs that don't spawn anywhere near each other, or the books?

I think they need to make EXP outside of abyssea match the EXP inside. That way both pro evolutionists and dinosaurs get their way.

why are we even bothering with one of these threads? The community is never going to come to any kind of consensus...

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

why are we even bothering with one of these threads? The community is never going to come to any kind of consensus...

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The smart 3/4s of the community has come to the consensus that the stupid 1/4 of the community is stupid.

Leeching =/= sucky player.

I've played with a WHM who's done nothing but play WHM for years, and he/she is ****ing horrible at it.

No.

Should have gone to Gusgen Mines.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

The smart 3/4s of the community has come to the consensus that the stupid 1/4 of the community is stupid.

Leeching =/= sucky player.

I've played with a WHM who's done nothing but play WHM for years, and he/she is ****ing horrible at it.

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Same here. I did dynamis for a year with this chick who played whm only and sucked ass. We used to constantly joke that raise was more mp efficient than cure.

Its funny I never thought of it like this but removing the ability to leech would actually hurt those who are low level.

Everyone that has wanted to level a job with a decent playtime has already gotten that/those job(s) to 75+ meaning anyone that is low level that doesn't have friends willing to gimp themselves by level syncing would get screwed and end up quitting.

In other words the OP and those few agreeing with it actually want to force lower level players to quit.