Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

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Originally Posted by Valaris

i ment dominion to be included in the whole no xp at all post XD. and yes the game is kinda slowing down. and one of the reasons and ive seen this alot of times is new players at lvl 1 cant get parties and lvl cause theres no one seeking so they just quit. so theres a constant flow of new players quiting and old players leaving the game. i know everyone that already has an established character likes the easy lvling and would hate for it to go away but somethings gonna have to be done about that.

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People don't party at level 1. If you are partying at level 1 you are doing it wrong. You can painlessly solo to level 20 nowadays and at that point you can party at qufim if you dont want to continue soloing. Normal pting doesn't really die off until, surprise, level 30. If new players don't want to buy the abyssea expansions, thats their own fault and the rest of us shouldn't suffer for it.

As has been stated earlier multiple times, if you raise the level cap people will just go back to level syncing to collibri levels or smn burning. All you are doing is substituting one type of leeching for another. Who cares if someone chests their way to 90 or syncs to 37 for Eron[S], both will have the same lack of skills and "real game experience" as most of the vocal minority would claim.

The new exp tiers they made for outside of abyssea have brought back some normal parties...

I've seen people hitting up old camps again just because they didn't feel like dealing with abyssea lights.

I think exp can be faster outside of abyssea now.. depends on how much time you have to party..


If you only have like an hour.. can pop your exp band and kill stuff getting 1200 exp + a kill outside of abyssea. No need to build up lights first or any other lameness.

[QUOTE=Ramsos;36800]People don't party at level 1. If you are partying at level 1 you are doing it wrong. You can painlessly solo to level 20 nowadays and at that point you can party at qufim if you dont want to continue soloing. Normal pting doesn't really die off until, surprise, level 30. If new players don't want to buy the abyssea expansions, thats their own fault and the rest of us shouldn't suffer for it.

lol i dont party at lvl 1 i was generalizing. just said it cause all players start the game at 1 and lately they usually dont make it past 15 before they just give up and vanish. alot in my ls have left for those reasons. i tend to try and help them when i can but only being able to help them out about an hour a day just doesnt cut it. they get impatient and leave for another game like wow,aion, and dc universe online. but if anyone of you played everquest adventures online for the ps2 the same thing happened no low lvl parties were going on so new players quit and old players left and eventually the game died. i havent logged on there in a few years but im guessing the servers are probly shut down. and ive been seen the same thing happen here is just happening a bit slower

please make some paragraphs or shorter posts valaris >_<


a thread post should be like a miniskirt

long enough to cover the topic at hand.. but short enough to keep things interesting ;o

[QUOTE=Flunklesnarkin;36813]The new exp tiers they made for outside of abyssea have brought back some normal parties...

I've seen people hitting up old camps again just because they didn't feel like dealing with abyssea lights.

that would be nice seeing how my main reason for agreeing was the old zones have a reason to exsist lol. i honestly dont care how its done just as long as something is done.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

lol i dont party at lvl 1 i was generalizing. just said it cause all players start the game at 1 and lately they usually dont make it past 15 before they just give up and vanish. alot in my ls have left for those reasons. i tend to try and help them when i can but only being able to help them out about an hour a day just doesnt cut it. they get impatient and leave for another game like wow,aion, and dc universe online. but if anyone of you played everquest adventures online for the ps2 the same thing happened no low lvl parties were going on so new players quit and old players left and eventually the game died. i havent logged on there in a few years but im guessing the servers are probly shut down. and ive been seen the same thing happen here is just happening a bit slower

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People leaving the game at 15 because there are no partys has nothing to do with abyssea. In fact, its a good argument for lowering the minimum abyssea level from 30 to 1.

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Originally Posted by Valaris

abyssea was ment to be end game content. how can this be so if a lvl 30 can pop in and leech his way to 90.

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Exping is not endgame. Killing NMs in the zone for AF3 is endgame, which this thread isn't about.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

People leaving the game at 15 because there are no partys has nothing to do with abyssea. In fact, its a good argument for lowering the minimum abyssea level from 30 to 1.

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well if they do that they might as well delete vanadiel and just move everyones homepoints and mog houses into abyssea. and fee up all that HDD space for the ps2 :D

I'm sure they will make outside of abyssea relevant again at some point..

They just need time to figure out how to properly implement it.. things are better than they were tho when abyssea first came out..

The significant exp boost has shifted some people away from exping in abyssea.


I hope they make some sort of war break out between windurst and bastok.. i want to pwn galka and tarus >:U

be like campaign but in the present ;o

idc whats been said prior to this unless it supports me, down with this idea! booooo!